Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aleph Zadik Aleph (2nd nomination)

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The result was procedural close‎. A requested merge should be processed on the talk page via WP:MERGEPROP. Daniel (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aleph Zadik Aleph

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Merge into parent body BBYO, which AZA's sister org B'nai B'rith Girls already does. Fails WP:NORG. Existing sources are not independent, and a WP:BEFORE does not turn up anything that would establish notability. Longhornsg (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Longhornsg (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Nebraska. Shellwood (talk) 23:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. Jax MN (talk) 00:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - These middle- and high-school organizations are items of independent searches, and with a century-old history and breadth of chapters Aleph Zadik Aleph is clearly notable. A far more helpful addition would be to find a few additional sources, rather than offering a potshot AfD. Merging would only make the group more difficult to find, as youth may not have awareness that AZA is subordinate to BBYO or know to look for the analogous girls' organization. They'd more likely give up, making Wikipedia less useful. And if virtually all the content is maintained in a merge? I don't know that anything is gained. They remain notable, and stand on their own right. Jax MN (talk) 23:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note, this is a response to the second AfD. A previous effort was closed without deletion. Jax MN (talk) 00:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a "potshot AfD". Please AGF. Notability is established via RS. Can you find and share any? Longhornsg (talk) 23:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: procedural request as this should be a merge discussion, rather than an AfD. Rublamb (talk) 22:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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