Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Fadael Mosque

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The result was delete. Consensus seems to agree that the subject lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. -- Cirt (talk) 15:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Fadael Mosque

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Delete because there is no support for this article in secondary sources. I have checked a number of Syrian guidebooks and travelogues and found no mention of Al-Fadael Mosque in Homs. These include Burns The Monuments of Syria; Darke Syria 2nd ed. (Bradt Travel Guide); Burckhardt Travels In Syria And The Holy Land; Dunston & Carter Lonely Planet Syria & Lebanon; and Balt Syria: A Historical And Architectural Guide as well as a search of Google Books. The article has been marked for lack of any references since March 2007. Bejnar (talk) 03:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge text content into List of mosques in Syria ‒ Jaymax✍ 09:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it is truly not-notable, then it should not be in the list either. See, for comparison, the guideline at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Lists of people. --Bejnar (talk) 18:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - The oldest structure in a city of 1.5 million would certainly be notable. Foreign language names that use non-Latin characters are always difficult to research using only English with so many spelling combinations possibilities. Under its Arabic name "جامع الفضائل‎", it does seem to have significant coverage.[1] I wish I could find more, though.--Oakshade (talk) 01:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wish that you could find more too, it certainly should be notable, but apparently isn't. One news article on a home town website, a couple of blog entries, and a large number of "false drops" is all that I get from a search using the Arabic name. By the way, when I listed the Afd, I also provided notice at the Mosques task force, hoping that someone there could help. --Bejnar (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This mosque gets a mention in a list of five ancient mosques in Homs on page 162 of Historic cities of the Islamic world by Clifford Edmund Bosworth (ISBN 9789004153882) under the spelling "Al-Fada'il" (with diacritics that I don't know how to enter), but there's no more than a mention. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep a historic in spite of the currently meager sourcing. I would expect there is more in Arabic, but there is no way I can tell. DGG ( talk ) 04:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There seems to be consensus above that there is a relative lack of reliable, non-trivial coverage of this topic. Claiming the topic is inherently notable doesn't convince me of much of anything. I need to see sources that are more reliable than the individual opinions of Wikipedia editors. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 05:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unless an Arabic article lists more information, I see no potential for this article if even locals do not have the urge to expand on it in their own language. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 06:41, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.