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Ali Mahmoud (military officer)

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Per WP:BIO1E, this figure has only received coverage due to one event which he didn't have a significant role in, and likely wouldn't have been deemed notable enough to warrant a separate article (which is reflected in the article's rather small size and detail). Farcazo (talk) 22:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 May 20. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 23:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Military, and Syria. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:07, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hafez al-Assad's cult of personality

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The article is largely copied from elsewhere, with the copyvio tool showing a 74.4% similarity with existing sources. There's also a lot of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH here. Skitash (talk) 11:11, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The copyvio is only of 2 paragraphs that can be removed. You didn't show anything about WP:OR or WP:SYNTH on the talkpage so I cant really talk about that. But, this topic is really notable and has lots of RSs reporting on it and deserves an article of its own. 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:16, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that much more of the article is copied from sources that aren't flagged by copyvio tools, such as Google Books. Also, large portions appear to be copied from other Wikipedia articles (such as Presidency of Hafez al-Assad) without attribution.
WP:SYNTH/WP:OR claims include things like:
- "Assad's skill as a cool, proud, tough, and shrewd negotiator in the post war period enabled him to gain the town of Kuneitra and the respect and admiration of many Arabs"
- "Syrian Ba'ath Movement ideologically elevated Hafez al-Assad as its 'Immortal', 'god-like figure'"
- "Arab Socialist Ba'ath party initially manufactured Hafez al-Assad's cult of Arab socialist heroism in consultancy with Soviet state propagandists, mimicking the pervasive personality cults prevalent across Soviet Bloc dictatorships like Romania and North Korea"
- "In schools, children were taught to sing songs of adulation about Hafez al-Assad. Teachers began each lesson with the song 'Our eternal leader, Hafez al-Assad'"
And more. All of these are either unsourced, not directly supported by the sources, or poorly sourced (i.e. lacking page numbers). Skitash (talk) 11:44, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History and Syria. Shellwood (talk) 11:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Maqsoud Liberation Forces

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article rely on speculative and unverifiable claims about the group activities, structure & history, which violates WP:NOR. Chronos.Zx (talk) 01:53, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Syria, and Turkey. Chronos.Zx (talk) 01:53, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stay the history of the group must be understood, that is why there are sources and they are not speculative, they are real, Sources are taken from Battle of Aleppo (2024) and Operation Dawn of Freedom Farcazo (talk) 02:08, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete given the existence of the article's content on Sheikh Maqsoud. Azuredivay (talk) 06:59, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Opposition is like saying that Manbij Military Council should not exist because of the city of Manbij you have to learn to differentiate between city or locality and armed forces Farcazo (talk) 13:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Saying another editor "has to learn" something is casting aspersions. Don't. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't want to insult him, he just has to differentiate between a city and an armed group. Farcazo (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – robertsky (talk) 04:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I responded to the WP:GOCE copy edit request without realising it was up for deletion; I have assessed it as Stub, added a category and some minor fixes to the prose. I don't see any good reason to delete it, and I would tend to agree with Farcazo's point that the article for the Sheikh Maqsood locality should be separate from one about its armed militia. This is exacerbated by the fact that the locality article is almost entirely about the civil war, and barely mentions anything about its population, geography, amenities, landmarks, etc. that one would expect of a locality article. Perhaps instead of deleting this article, it could absorb more material from the locality article. — Jon (talk) 03:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, he should stay because Sheikh Maqsoud is not the same as the militias that are there (that was what I tried to explain to Azuredivay but The Bushranger accused me of supposedly insulting him) and change the city's page, as you say, it has nothing to do with the city (neither its tourist sites nor its climate) and only with the Syrian civil war, I plan to merge the page with Ashrafieh Liberation Forces. Farcazo (talk) 21:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]