Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Hatcher

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:49, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Hatcher

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Another sportsperson that fails WP:GNG. No sources beyond stats/profiles from databases. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 17:27, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, and Australia. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 17:27, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning Keep. There's not many Australian newspapers from his period online but the ones available appear to have SIGCOV, e.g. this and this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Olympics and Sport of athletics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:00, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails NSPORTS, specifically SPORTCRIT non-numbered -- #4. I don't see any qualification under NTRACK. Other issues: A one-sentence, less than a dictionary entry, that is not expandable beyond a pseudo biography or resume. There seems to be some continued confusion concerning notability and the criteria of: Significant coverage, that is, multiple published, non-trivial, secondary sources, which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject. The two sources provided are sports coverage of events. One The bad boy's back. The other provides information that the subject placed 1st in the NSW championship and qualified for the summer Olympics where he placed 21st. We would be getting somewhere except these are just statistics. The subject lacks biographical sources that qualify for an article. See: Why we have these requirements. -- Otr500 (talk) 10:09, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- The first one is over 600 words on Hatcher, while the second is over 700 words. Clearly SIGCOV. How on earth do you come to the conclusion that its just a list of statistics?? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:22, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: In addition to the sources from BeanieFan11, which I personally think do provide secondary and independent coverage of the subject, there is also [[1]] and [[2]] which provide additional coverage of the subject. I'd say that this subject has the WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:SPORTSBASIC. Let'srun (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sources put forward in this discussion meet the SIGCOV threshold and as such prove GNG. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There appears to be significant coverage across the three Sydney Morning Herald articles, providing secondary background information as well as the primary reporting that occasioned the articles. But for purposes of notability, multiple articles from the same outlet count as one source. Per Otr500's comment, multiple sources are required. Let's run has provided a link to The Age, an Australian paper of record, but that one is not significant coverage. I think we are almost there, but we do need multiple sources to meet GNG. Is there anything else? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:11, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In addition to the SMH sources, The Australian has articles which I can't read online, but the results in Trove [3] show have sigcov: "Hatcher leaps into world rankings", with snippet text " Hatcher, a father of two from Ballarat, relocated to Wollongong three months ago to train with coach Peter ... national supremacy under threat from new training partner, Adrian Hatcher, who launched himself into the ..." (1997 Feb 10), and "Australia's Olympic Track and Field team for 2000" with snippet view "ADRIAN HATCHER - Javelin The bleached blond with a bevy of ..." (2000 August 21). There was probably coverage in other Australian newspapers too, but they are not yet available online. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per RebeccaGreen, thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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