Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Calafato
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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Draftify as this article still has multiple issues and it has been drafitified 2 times after the creator moved it to main space due to similar issues. Laura240406 (talk) 04:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Radio, Theatre, and Ohio. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:06, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PROMO. Also appears to be COI. See the list of contributions by the article's originator. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – Aaron Calafato’s solo show For Profit laid the foundation for a powerful career in storytelling. That early work—which received coverage from The Chronicle of Higher Education and other independent outlets—not only brought attention to student debt but also elevated his voice as a storyteller. It led to the award-winning podcast 7 Minute Stories and The Lonely Office, Glassdoor’s flagship podcast. His storytelling has only grown in reach, credibility, and cultural relevance—this page reflects a legitimate, verifiable career. Dekayf (talk) 16:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- this is your first edit ever and your keep reason is very obviously AI generated Laura240406 (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- +1 - every sentence of that !vote is full of giveaways that it's ChatGPT. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Adding that the page's main author left a nearly identically phrased comment on the talk page. Even ends with "this page reflects a ...". Unnecessary conclusion statements (especially ones phrased like "this x reflects a y") are a favorite of ChatGPT's. I'm not at the point where I'd find it necessary to open a WP:SPI here because only one of the accounts has !voted, but I think it's fair to say it at least looks suspicious. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- +1 - every sentence of that !vote is full of giveaways that it's ChatGPT. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- this is your first edit ever and your keep reason is very obviously AI generated Laura240406 (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PROMO, also not written with WP:NPOV and edited by users with WP:COI. Karl 334 Talk--Contribs 20:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete
or draftify with delete as first preference.Not sufficiently notable for a WP:BLP page. I would've leaned towards supporting draftifying, but the page history shows that the author refuses to incubate it in draftspace and keeps moving it back to mainspace despite feedback. It had to be moved back to draftspace multiple times.
- The author's contributitons also show this pre-written draft with instructions on how to create a Wikipedia account to publish it, and it contains the sentence
"Disclosure: I am submitting this draft on behalf of Aaron Calafato, whom I am assisting with content submission. I am doing my best to follow Wikipedia’s neutrality and sourcing guidelines."
Now, I can't claim to know what exactly this is. Is this Aaron Calafato instructing someone to create an account to make an article about him? Is it him or a fan asking an AI to write a page for him & copying and pasting the results? Is it the result of him paying someone to write a page for him? I don't know, and the answer doesn't really matter. In any case, there's WP:COI and WP:PROMO concerns. The multiple newly registered single-purpose accounts popping up to add gushing praise to the article or to leave AI-generated keep !votes are not helping anything either. - Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Took another cursory look at the page: the entire reflist is either 404 not founds or links to unrelated pages, the only exception being source #1. It's highly improbable that this much linkrot would happen this quickly on such a new page; yet more reason to suspect the entire page, not just the text but also the citations, is AI-generated gibberish. A quick google search for the subject also reveals the subject's videos average no more than 20 views each, despite the article describing him as a highly successful award-winning podcaster. This is very likely to be an autobiography. A computer-generated autobiography with zero salvageable bytes. I'm changing my stance from "delete or draftify" to "delete with prejudice against recreation." Vanilla Wizard 💙 12:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see any 404s. Also, some of his videos have millions of views. Green960 (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- This account was created during this deletion discussion and this reply is their first and only contribution. Yes, the references section consists almost exclusively 404 of links because the whole page is something an AI hallucinated. As for the second part of that reply, YouTube puts "shorts" under a different section than videos, so I did not see that one when sorting his videos by most popular. The reason why I made a comment about his low view counts was because I was previously of the belief that the page could have been started by fans, but I'm now of the belief that the page was started by - and all of these random new accounts belong to - Aaron himself, making this page an WP:AUTOBIO. Creating a brand new account just to set the record straight about your view counts doesn't weaken that suspicion, it strengthens it. Vanilla Wizard 💙 23:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. Well, with all due respect, your assertion feels unfounded. It’s one thing to be critical of an article’s status. That seems more than fair and in good faith. However, suggesting that multiple contributors are actually the subject themselves is speculative at best. Personally, I'm doing some research on prominent podcast storytellers, came across this conversation, and thought I’d chime in because I genuinely believe he meets the notability bar. A new account doesn’t automatically mean bad intent nor did I create other accounts. Green960 (talk) 00:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- this is your second edit ever, the first one was also on this AfD Laura240406 (talk) 14:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. Well, with all due respect, your assertion feels unfounded. It’s one thing to be critical of an article’s status. That seems more than fair and in good faith. However, suggesting that multiple contributors are actually the subject themselves is speculative at best. Personally, I'm doing some research on prominent podcast storytellers, came across this conversation, and thought I’d chime in because I genuinely believe he meets the notability bar. A new account doesn’t automatically mean bad intent nor did I create other accounts. Green960 (talk) 00:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- This account was created during this deletion discussion and this reply is their first and only contribution. Yes, the references section consists almost exclusively 404 of links because the whole page is something an AI hallucinated. As for the second part of that reply, YouTube puts "shorts" under a different section than videos, so I did not see that one when sorting his videos by most popular. The reason why I made a comment about his low view counts was because I was previously of the belief that the page could have been started by fans, but I'm now of the belief that the page was started by - and all of these random new accounts belong to - Aaron himself, making this page an WP:AUTOBIO. Creating a brand new account just to set the record straight about your view counts doesn't weaken that suspicion, it strengthens it. Vanilla Wizard 💙 23:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see any 404s. Also, some of his videos have millions of views. Green960 (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Took another cursory look at the page: the entire reflist is either 404 not founds or links to unrelated pages, the only exception being source #1. It's highly improbable that this much linkrot would happen this quickly on such a new page; yet more reason to suspect the entire page, not just the text but also the citations, is AI-generated gibberish. A quick google search for the subject also reveals the subject's videos average no more than 20 views each, despite the article describing him as a highly successful award-winning podcaster. This is very likely to be an autobiography. A computer-generated autobiography with zero salvageable bytes. I'm changing my stance from "delete or draftify" to "delete with prejudice against recreation." Vanilla Wizard 💙 12:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Promotional article. Most sourcing is 404s and redirects. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with Vanilla Wizard's comments Laura240406 (talk) 11:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Nripenn has added copyrighted images twice: here and here. I confronted them about it and they said that they downloaded it from their Facebook and that they took the picture. (here). Did they just admit to being Aaron Calafato? Laura240406 (talk) 15:53, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.