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MediaWiki message delivery 21:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Citation Requested - User:Amir Segev Sarusi/Yoram Kraus

Hello there,

Following your request here, see forward the citations for verification. Let me know if any further citation are needed:

Infobed net worth at it's peak

  • In the first source the title litrerally says "on paper, infobed is already worth 1.25 billion $"
  • In the second source, the title explicitly says that infobed reached a worth of "more than a billion $", and in the article itself it is reported that, according to a lawsuit filed by a brokerage firm (Tel Aviv VC), InfiBond conducted a $100 million fundraising round based on a company valuation of $1.25 billion. This claimed valuation is central to the legal dispute, as the firm argues it is owed a 5% commission based on that round. Similar things in the third source.
  • In the fourth source, they say that Yoram Kraus is the founder of the firm. The source is mainly about the crisis the firm was facing by that time, and it dedicates a background paragraph for its worth at its peak.

Kraus' involvement in Sela Kapital (a publicly traded Israeli REIT managing income-producing real estate, with a market cap of ₪2.1 billion (May 2025)

  • The fifth source is a court decision in a request to affirm a derivative lawsuit against the company by a shareholder. The court specifically explains Karus' involvement in the factual background in the third section: "Factual Background Background to the Establishment of the Fund 3. The management company was established pursuant to a founders’ agreement dated December 2006, signed between Respondents 2–3 and 9, and another individual named Yoram Kraus (whose shares were purchased by the management company in August 2009 and who is therefore not relevant to this matter – see Appendix 16 to the Fund’s response). In June 2007, the management company incorporated the fund as a private company."
  • Sources 6–8 all address the specific matters for which they were cited. Source 7 is the official court decision appointing a trustee, while sources 6 and 8 are media reports from the Israeli press.
  • Sources 9-10 are israeli media articles about the product Infobed was aspiring to develop, and that's their only subject.
  • The 11th source is the site of Ogen (the NGO he founded with Daniella Paz and others). You are correct that the site does not specifically says Kraus is the founder, but this appears here, and also in Kraus' linkdin profile.
  • The 12th may not be considered "reliable" (as it's a marketing content), but as I stated before - this section is about the subject's hobbies, and I included this information because it adds texture to the article and is not of significant weight; in any case, hobbies are rarely documented by "neutral" or scholarly sources. --Amir Segev Sarusi (talk) 18:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
@Amir Segev Sarusi, thank you for putting forward the sources for review. If you think that the sources have significant coverage, you can include them in the article, and then you can resubmit it for review. I do not have enough time to review all of the sources now. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 20:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi there, did as you requested and they were unfortunately declined. Can you please leave any remark regarding the issues still on the table? I want to finish this article before proceeding to others. --Amir Segev Sarusi (talk) 14:33, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
@Amir Segev Sarusi, I have no idea why it was declined, but you should significantly address the concerns raised and resubmit. I am currently away, so I will review it at 15:30 UTC at the earliest. Meanwhile, can you explain what you did? ToadetteEdit (talk) 14:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I have just taken a look of the draft and I see that it was "properly" declined due to notability concerns. From the look of the sources in question it is clear that most sources in the draft are focused more heavily towards the companies and not about the person. And so you will need to cite sources with significant depth about him so that you can prove that the subject is notable. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:35, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the constructive feedback. I will conduct a follow-up review. --Amir Segev Sarusi (talk) 09:17, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Draft: Peter J. Howard

Thanks very much for reading my article on Peter J. Howard, even if rejected. It's my first for Wikipedia. My query: is there a "fatal flaw" with this living-person subject (a highly regarded university professor and author of numerous books and articles on landscape theory) if no mainstream media have interviewed him, and therefore no newspaper or other secondary-source articles can be cited? I have accurately cited the subject's books and articles, and the single, published academic source I found is included. Any suggestions you can offer (including whether I should potentially abandon this subject) are welcome! Thank you. Lonepine0204 (talk) 17:27, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

@Lonepine0204, the notability standards require at least two sources that are independent (i.e. not written by themselves), secondary (i.e. not from the affiliated institute's website) and have significant depth in the context. Or if the user meets one of the criteria of notability for academics without needing those source but it would be preferred if you add these sources into the draft. Hope that helps. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much for pointing me to 'notability for academics'. I will see if that sorts out my article's dilemma! Lonepine0204 (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

The World Destubathon

Hello. You're invited to participate in The World Destubathon. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It will be held from Monday June 16 - Sunday July 13. There is $3338 going into it, with $500 the top prize and $250 worth of prizes for architectural articles. If you are interested in winning something to help you buy books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for articles which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld, year thanks for the invitation, though. However, I am technically unable to participate due to a topic ban from most of the project space, since joining would require editing a page in that namespace. I look forward to expanding a few stubs if I have time, and I will hopefully join another if there is one in the near future. And yeah, I am not interested in any monetary prizes in the meanwhile. ToadetteEdit (talk) 14:01, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

This article follows standards,Greenstreet

It is done@ToadetteEdit Sunhighway27 (talk) 21:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC) Sunhighway27 (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

@Sunhighway27, please follow up on your talk page concerning your disruptive attempt to promote the pages into mainspace. ToadetteEdit (talk) 13:52, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to promote myself Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
so is it an article yet Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Article? You have not yet edited the two declined drafts (in one case also rejected). They are still WP:DRAFTs, and you are not attempting to promote yourself (far from your intended creation?) And if you can not find any SIGCOV article on Google or any other search engine, it is better for you to just leave those draft and edit somewhere; anything that interests you most. So you have two choices: either to pick another notable topic to write about, or continue to push these two drafts to mainspace, which might get you blocked if done disruptively. It is your choice, and I am not obligated to choose for you. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:39, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
sorry I meant draft Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
did you mean: anything Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:50, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
also I can find stuff on it, but I want more so it isn't a stub Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
why are you so angry Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
I am not angry, I am trying to help you but you appear to not get my idea about it. And yes, anything that interests you (I personally write about locations in Egypt, but I might also create articles on mobile phones). If you can find stuff about it, you can just add it, and ask for help resubmitting the draft. And stubs can always be expanded if more information can be found. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
I knew you like the Egypt area, I like the Franklin county area.(I live there). Sunhighway27 (talk) 18:57, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Any then you can improve existing articles related to Franklin County, Missouri, and heck, the article on the county itself has notices that say that more sources are need. You can find that sources to back up that claims in that article. This is a meaningful way to contribute to Wikipedia. Is there any other interests that come to mind? ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
yes that is my plan Sunhighway27 (talk) 19:10, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
I am apart of the destubaton Sunhighway27 (talk) 19:10, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
are you Sunhighway27 (talk) 19:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
You can see the thread right above this one. I attempted to join a backlog drive, then requested one to make the edits for me, but then got declined due to WP:PROXYING. So do not even think that you should add my name to it. In short, I am unable to join due to the topic ban. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
sorry for you Sunhighway27 (talk) 19:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
I wont add your name, that is rude Sunhighway27 (talk) 19:18, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from ThinkTankResearcher (07:21, 7 June 2025)

Hello Brother! I want help about one article, I adding from government official website here on wikipedia article, that is correct data but some accounts come again and again adding wrong, incorrect, misinformation and quoting wrong person with wrong name, please take action what to do? --ThinkTankResearcher (talk) 07:21, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello @ThinkTankResearcher. I do not understand by the "one article"; what are you referring to? If you think that the edits are wrong, you can always revert it (using the undo functionality), but you should first understand the policies and guidelines first, and also see Help:Getting started, before reverting other's edits. Alternately, you can also raise up the concerns on the article's talk page. And the teahouse is always here to help you. Happy editing! ToadetteEdit (talk) 07:27, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
no brother article is Second Shehbaz Sharif government, I revert them 4 5 times, brother 4, 5 times already, they change it back, and currently you can check there is wrong information present, How many times I revert it back, they come back again and change it back, take action and block them, I adding data from official government website, it can't be wrong. ThinkTankResearcher (talk) 07:47, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
I have restored the article to the version of your most recent undo. From looking at the history of the article, I see a series of edits from an IP user who is currently blocked from editing due to general disruption across multiple articles related to Pakistani politics. And I do see a few good faith edits from a user which got reverted by an IP (same?). If issues persist, you can seek help from an administrator; but preferably you should start a discussion on the article's talk page. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:04, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
right right, excellent man you did good Thank you so much and yeah you are that IP user did temper the articles of different pakistan politicians, I am credible responsibles so i want latest correct information here. Thanks again ThinkTankResearcher (talk) 06:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Your contributions are still appreciated :-)

I found your talk page and saw this comment (now archived) on deciding not to enter the backlog drive for AfC. You might have your reasons for not entering, but after viewing the large amount of backlog-clearing reviews you've still done, I ask you to possibly reconsider so you can get a little credit :-). LR.127 (talk) 03:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

@LR.127, thank you for this message. Tbh, I could not join the backlog due to a topic ban from most of the Wikipedia namespace (see archive 9). I attempted to join the NPP backlog last month, but I was not allowed to do so. I currently do not have enough time to review some drafts, but I may have an opportunity to do so of time allows.
On another note, I thank all of the AfC and NPP reviewers for clearing the massive backlog at AfC (~2800 by June 1). I suspect that the backlog be zero within two days. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:16, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from ThinkTankResearcher (19:29, 11 June 2025)

Hello brother, there are two accounts or IP address continuously again and again they vandalising one page, I change it few days ago, they come and destroy and it take alot of time to undo, please how to block them permanently? --ThinkTankResearcher (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

@ThinkTankResearcher, the best way before requesting administrative action is to discuss what is happening on the talk page. I have started a thread on the relevant talk page, see the last thread. If anything does not work, the last resort would be to request administrative attention. ToadetteEdit (talk) 05:30, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Aina Asif

If it helps to make sense of some of the AfD voting. CNMall41 (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

@CNMall41, thanks for the followup. I am so confused as to why the socks keep reappearing every now and then, for two years straight. I think that Behappyyar (talk · contribs) appears to be suspicious. They have been creating almost 100 articles on Pakistani biographies among others, but if the checks are confirmed to be true, then they are trying to escape scrutiny. Probably not a good look at them, but I suspect that when they get autopatroll thing would escalate, and also that they might be blocked sooner than later. ToadetteEdit (talk) 05:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
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