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March thanks
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Thank you for improving article quality in March! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Nice to see you around. I'm probably gonna take a break for a while (say a month) to focus on getting IRL life sorted before summer break. Sohom (talk) 17:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining! - Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Congratulations
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Good Article Barnstar |
Congratulations on bringing Soumen Mitra up to Wikipedia:Good article status. Thank you for persisting with this despite the interruption in the review process. I hope you are happy with how the article has turned out. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC) |
Your GA nomination of Soumen Mitra
[edit]The article Soumen Mitra you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Soumen Mitra for comments about the article, and Talk:Soumen Mitra/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Queen of Hearts -- Queen of Hearts (talk) 05:21, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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Some stroopwafels for you!
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I thought the article on Soumen Mitra was really good man. ![]() |
- Glad you liked it, (it's not my usual style of articles but it was fun to write) Sohom (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Soumen Mitra
[edit] Hello! Your submission of Soumen Mitra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Flibirigit (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- This nomination still needs some attention if you are willing. The nominator has not responded. Flibirigit (talk) 02:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Request
[edit]Hi there, can you please indef-extend-protect User:Abhiimanyu7 as per WP:UPROT. I not need to edit my userpage regularly, I feel happy if you protect my userpage if possible and protection help to secure pages from vandals and other types of bad edits. --Regards, KB~Abhiimanyu7 talk 07:06, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see a specific reason to do that. No need to protect it imo unless you are being specifically targetted. Sohom (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for you're response, I've understand. --Regards, KB~Abhiimanyu7 talk 17:08, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
April music
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Thank you for improving article quality in April! - My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-18
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WikiCup 2025 May newsletter
[edit]The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.
Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:
BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,233 round points from 24 good articles, 28 Did you know articles, and one In the news nomination, mainly about athletes and politicians
Thebiguglyalien (submissions) with 1,127 round points, almost entirely from two high-multiplier featured articles on Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) and Grace Coolidge, in addition to two GAs and two reviews
History6042 (submissions) with 1,088 round points from four featured lists about Michelin-starred restaurants, nine good articles and a good topic mostly on Olympic-related subjects, seven ITN articles, and dozens of reviews
Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,085 round points from three FAs, one GA, and four DYKs on military history, as well as 18 reviews
Arconning (submissions) with 887 round points, mostly from four FLs, six GAs, and seven DYKs on Olympic topics, along with more than two dozen reviews
In addition, we would like to recognize Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.
The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.
Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Technical Barnstar |
For User:Sohom Datta/fastreview, which has been saving my sanity and also my ability to move my fingers. Rusalkii (talk) 07:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC) |
- Thank you! Hope you liked it! Sohom (talk) 15:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Cookie syncing
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Cookie syncing you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vanamonde93 -- Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
About your userboxes
[edit]Hi Sodium—hope all is well :) As the guy who started the RfC for WP:STICKYDECO, the intention was not to allow opting-out of CSS float, but things which "float" on top of content (I'm glad that class was renamed to avoid confusion).
The intention was to hide the stuff which follows you down the screen as you scroll. You are, of course, welcome to curate your page as you wish, but I would be very surprised if someone complained about your userboxes being visible. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:52, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster, I initially wanted to hide the
{{Special:Impact}}
template using WP:STICKYDECO since it leads to a fair bit of FOUC when the page is loaded. (There is a fair bit of the page jumping around which might become a issue for some folks) However, if I specifically remove only that, the userpage looks really unbalanced, (with the userbox extending beyond the content), necessitating the removal of the userboxes to make the page more balanced. - This is more a bandaid fix, the correct fix would be figure out how Special:Impact works and remove the initial scaffolding FOUC on loading the page. (Which I intend to get to at some point
) Sohom (talk) 14:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Actually I fixed it with a bit of CSS, and the sticky-deco tags have been removed! Sohom (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-19
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Weekly highlight
- The Wikimedia Foundation has shared the latest draft update to their annual plan for next year (July 2025–June 2026). This includes an executive summary (also on Diff), details about the three main goals (Infrastructure, Volunteer Support, and Effectiveness), global trends, and the budget and financial model. Feedback and questions are welcome on the talk page until the end of May.
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- For wikis that have the CampaignEvents extension enabled, two new feature improvements have been released:
- Admins can now choose which namespaces are permitted for Event Registration via Community Configuration (documentation). The default setup is for event registration to be permitted in the Event namespace, but other namespaces (such as the project namespace or WikiProject namespace) can now be added. With this change, communities like WikiProjects can now more easily use Event Registration for their collaborative activities.
- Editors can now transclude the Collaboration List on a wiki page (documentation). The Collaboration List is an automated list of events and WikiProjects on the wikis, accessed via Special:AllEvents (example). Now, the Collaboration List can be added to all sorts of wiki pages, such as: a wiki mainpage, a WikiProject page, an affiliate page, an event page, or even a user page.
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Drafts
[edit]Hello. You can remove the drafts, because they're not even auto-confirmed and anonim people will just create vandalism pages in the drafts, and even if they don't create a page about the article, they'll write vandalism in the drafts and no one will check it. Skittle-chan1986 (talk) 12:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's like on my draft;Guf rapper. I'm write that draft at Jan 2024 and he will deleted only at Aug 2024 Skittle-chan1986 (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draft:Guf(rapper) has already been deleted, there isn't much to do here. Sohom (talk) 14:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Cookie syncing
[edit]The article Cookie syncing you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cookie syncing for comments about the article, and Talk:Cookie syncing/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vanamonde93 -- Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
This is ridiculous
[edit]Being partially banned from editing for 3 months because of your own dang talk page.
Freeness doesn’t exist on Wikipedia. 199.192.122.199 (talk) 19:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- You are free to edit other pages, shit posting on your own talk pages is not productive to Wikipedia, you can start a blog or something to do whatever you are doing on Wikipedia at the moment. Sohom (talk) 19:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean crap posting? 199.192.122.199 (talk) 19:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing on that talk page is related in any way to encyclopedic work. That is Wikipedia's primary intent, not to be a forum. (Again, a small bit of fun is fine, but a talk page filled with nothing related your own musings is toeing the line). Sohom (talk) 20:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Where did I even cross the line? I was tryna get internet screamer it’s own page! 199.192.122.199 (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Again, the only page you cannot edit at the moment is your own talk page, you should be able to edit other articles, to add sources or such similar encyclopedic tasks. Feel free to improve other articles or write a reliably sourced draft for Internet screamer if you can find all the sources. Posting on your own talk page about whatever that is does not help us much. Sohom (talk) 20:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Then ask the jumpscares page monitor/idiot that is Soetermans on me editing articles. 199.192.122.199 (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Again, the only page you cannot edit at the moment is your own talk page, you should be able to edit other articles, to add sources or such similar encyclopedic tasks. Feel free to improve other articles or write a reliably sourced draft for Internet screamer if you can find all the sources. Posting on your own talk page about whatever that is does not help us much. Sohom (talk) 20:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Where did I even cross the line? I was tryna get internet screamer it’s own page! 199.192.122.199 (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing on that talk page is related in any way to encyclopedic work. That is Wikipedia's primary intent, not to be a forum. (Again, a small bit of fun is fine, but a talk page filled with nothing related your own musings is toeing the line). Sohom (talk) 20:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean crap posting? 199.192.122.199 (talk) 19:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2025-20
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- The "Get shortened URL" link on the sidebar now includes a QR code. Wikimedia site users can now use it by scanning or downloading it to quickly share and access shared content from Wikimedia sites, conveniently.
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- Starting May 19, 2025, Event organisers in wikis with the CampaignEvents extension enabled can use Event Registration in the project namespace (e.g., Wikipedia namespace, Wikidata namespace). With this change, communities don't need admins to use the feature. However, wikis that don't want this change can remove and add the permitted namespaces at Special:CommunityConfiguration/CampaignEvents.
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abracadabra_LA
[edit]Why did you delete the draft I was working on and asking for help with. This is really not helpful and not in the spirit of sharing information with the world? I am first time writer/editor and am trying to ge things correct and this is a very heavy handed move that prevents important information being shared with the public HHSILVER (talk) 15:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER, Your page was clearly advertising and eulogizing a specific entity. Per our policy, we do not allow any form of advertising on Wikipedia. Please survey this page before creating more articles. Sohom (talk) 15:32, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- This page was the opposite of the advertising. There is no product. There is nothing for sale. It is also the opposite of eulogizing . Eulogizing refers to death and this project is about restoring life. Also and very specifically there is also no entity. So politely you are incorrect on all 3 counts. This page describes an important historical opportunity for the city. I am fine to fine tune this until it meets community standards and this is my first time posting to Wiki but this is not helpful. Can you please restore the draft that I spend hours working on so I can copy it and also continue working on it. Thank you, Harris HHSILVER (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER, Promotion does not necessarily have to lead to a sale or have a product attached to it. Promoting a idea or opportunity (as you said in your own words) is still promotion. Also, in this context, eulogizing refers to the act of talking about a entity in superlative terms, which your writing did do. To quote your own writing,
Abracadabra_La is a vessel for manifesting a desirable urban vision for Los Angeles
, this is clearly promotion, cut and dry. - Regarding returning your draft, I first need confirmation that you do understand our policies on promotional material (linked above) AND the fact that you have read through and complied with the conflict of interest disclosure policies outlined in the last message Theroadislong left you. Once you have done so, can I consider returning the draft. (Though honestly, looking further the draft needs to be completely rewritten from scratch anyway to fit into our policies, I would encourage you to do that instead of asking for it back) Sohom (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, You used the word advertising not promotion when you first wrote and what I responded to. Also this is not promotion. It's my attempt to accurately provide information about an important civic proposal at a historical time for Los Angeles.
- What you say is cut and dry is also not as I quote Michael Sorkin's definition of desirability which is an urbanist theory and that seems to have been misunderstood.
- I would like the draft so I can at least copy it and place it outside of wiki.
- I didn't realize that people who aren't subject matter experts are able to delete my work.
- Again I am new to this but I find this to be not productive.
- Can you please restore my draft without your opinion of why it needs to be completely re-written which is not my writing process and also not productive or collegial.
- Thank you, --Harris HHSILVER (talk) 16:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER
I quote Michael Sorkin
, I quoted the first sentence of your draft, which does not quote anyone. Wikipedia articles are meant to be objective and not use flowery/eulogizing/promotional language. - Regarding the rest, please actually read my message above, the conditions for providing you with a copy of the text are simple, actually read through our policies that you have disregarded and show that you are committing to following them going forward. If you do not do that, there is really no point of this exchange happening. Regarding the comment about "experts", I would add Wikipedia:Expert editors to your reading list, TLDR, Wikipedia does not treat edits by experts in a particular topic as "special", rather you are treated as a regular editor alongside everyone else. Sohom (talk) 16:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm just reading this now. This is so unnecessary unfriendly and unhelpful and accusatory. I actually quote the urban theory of the desireablt. This is an unkown but relevant academic theory. Instead of discussing ideas we are discussing style in an orthographic sense. My writing is never flowery, or promotional. While that may be tool to dismiss the writing it's not accurate statement. Nor was the text that came up that said my writing was generated by Large Language Model. HHSILVER (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER All I wanted was an affirmation that you would follow have followed our policies going forward if I did restore the page. I am not accusing you of anything here, I was stating that to me the writing was advertising oriented (and explaining why it seemed that way). In any case, that is water under the bridge. Draft:Abracadabra LA is a good step in the right direction of trying to follow our policies and writing in a tone that is inline with the way Wikipedia tends to represent things. Sohom (talk) 00:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- words have meanings. Advertising has a very specific meaning. My writing is the opposite of advertising. Between this and being (falsely) accused of using large language models it's impossible to address what I have been asked to address. I get that my style isn't dialed in. But the information was interesting relevant and addition to human culture and it was just knee capped thoughtlessly. HHSILVER (talk) 01:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER All I wanted was an affirmation that you would follow have followed our policies going forward if I did restore the page. I am not accusing you of anything here, I was stating that to me the writing was advertising oriented (and explaining why it seemed that way). In any case, that is water under the bridge. Draft:Abracadabra LA is a good step in the right direction of trying to follow our policies and writing in a tone that is inline with the way Wikipedia tends to represent things. Sohom (talk) 00:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm just reading this now. This is so unnecessary unfriendly and unhelpful and accusatory. I actually quote the urban theory of the desireablt. This is an unkown but relevant academic theory. Instead of discussing ideas we are discussing style in an orthographic sense. My writing is never flowery, or promotional. While that may be tool to dismiss the writing it's not accurate statement. Nor was the text that came up that said my writing was generated by Large Language Model. HHSILVER (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @HHSILVER
- @HHSILVER, Promotion does not necessarily have to lead to a sale or have a product attached to it. Promoting a idea or opportunity (as you said in your own words) is still promotion. Also, in this context, eulogizing refers to the act of talking about a entity in superlative terms, which your writing did do. To quote your own writing,
- This page was the opposite of the advertising. There is no product. There is nothing for sale. It is also the opposite of eulogizing . Eulogizing refers to death and this project is about restoring life. Also and very specifically there is also no entity. So politely you are incorrect on all 3 counts. This page describes an important historical opportunity for the city. I am fine to fine tune this until it meets community standards and this is my first time posting to Wiki but this is not helpful. Can you please restore the draft that I spend hours working on so I can copy it and also continue working on it. Thank you, Harris HHSILVER (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Draft Abracadabra LA
[edit]Hi,
I'm new to Wikipedia writing. I was working on a draft that someone told me you deleted. I don't have another copy of it. Can you please undelete it so I can make a copy of work and keep it off line. Thank you. I'm trying to find my seal legs here but feel that everyone is cutting them off. I had no idea that my work in draft form could be deleted. again thank you. --Harris HHSILVER (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've copied the content to https://pastebin.com/dwyvzeys purely so that you can reffer to it offwiki, I am not restoring it onwiki. Sohom (talk) 18:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is really been horrific experience. This is my first wiki so there is a learning curve for me but this is not collegial. My sense is that there may be some style issues but no one actually contemplated the project that I was writing anbiur about and it’s cultural implications in this historic moment in the city. The accusations of it being written by a large language model, and that its advertising are also ridiculous. I can work on my encyclopedia style but the editors seem happier to chop something down than to help a writer contribute. Again thanks for giving me access to my work. I think this is the first time I’ve ever had my work taken from me and it was really off putting. I expected help and some back and forth not a delete of an important urban project based on nonsense that it had been written by ai when I never use ai for any writing ever. HHSILVER (talk) 23:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
AFC submission changes
[edit]Uh... what are you tracking with all of your changes to {{AfC submission}} and its subpages? (please do not ping on reply) Primefac (talk) 21:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- The idea was to check for cases where {{Afc submission}} was used in the format
|ts=21:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
, which (a) breaks the template and (b) appears to be somewhat popular due to the proliferation of AI writing drafts. Sohom (talk) 21:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)- I don't think my current logic is there yet, and I did not test it for all cases :( Sohom (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Are there any malformed
|ts=
uses? I feel like Category:AfC pending submissions by age would show pages in the "without an age" subcat if things weren't reading right. Primefac (talk) 00:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)- I don't know if there is one currently around. The uses typically look like [2], based on the categories there the empty date category does not get included in that case. Sohom (talk) 00:34, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Are there any malformed
- I don't think my current logic is there yet, and I did not test it for all cases :( Sohom (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Malformed AFC submissions
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A tag has been placed on Category:Malformed AFC submissions indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 21:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Liz, See above. Sohom (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 17)
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- @Timtrent, see two sections, above, I was mostly testing some changes to the template. Sohom (talk) 22:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps you need to test them differently. The malformed template appears to be caused by AI generation, though that is by no means certain. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 22:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'll use a deactivated/your declined template for testing (since I don't actually need it to be active). My idea was to add them to a category. Sohom (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps you need to test them differently. The malformed template appears to be caused by AI generation, though that is by no means certain. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 22:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of User:Sohom Datta/sandbox
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Sohom Datta/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 22:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Declined by me, I don't think I'm violating any WEBHOSTING by testing Wikipedia-related stuff in my sandbox. Yes, the page looks a bit mad, but that's just experiments/tests building up over time. Sohom (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-21
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Weekly highlight
- The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: Peacock check. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Peacock language model for the following languages: Arabic, Spanish, Portuguese, English, and Japanese. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org. The deadline to sign up is on May 23, which will be the start date of the test.
Updates for editors
- From May 20, 2025, oversighters and checkusers will need to have their accounts secured with two-factor authentication (2FA) to be able to use their advanced rights. All users who belong to these two groups and do not have 2FA enabled have been informed. In the future, this requirement may be extended to other users with advanced rights. Learn more.
Multiblocks will begin mass deployment by the end of the month: all non-Wikipedia projects plus Catalan Wikipedia will adopt Multiblocks in the week of May 26, while all other Wikipedias will adopt it in the week of June 2. Please contact the team if you have concerns. Administrators can test the new user interface now on your own wiki by browsing to Special:Block?usecodex=1, and can test the full multiblocks functionality on testwiki. Multiblocks is the feature that makes it possible for administrators to impose different types of blocks on the same user at the same time. See the help page for more information. [3]
- Later this week, the Special:SpecialPages listing of almost all special pages will be updated with a new design. This page has been redesigned to improve the user experience in a few ways, including: The ability to search for names and aliases of the special pages, sorting, more visible marking of restricted special pages, and a more mobile-friendly look. The new version can be previewed at Beta Cluster now, and feedback shared in the task. [4]
- The Chart extension is being enabled on more wikis. For a detailed list of when the extension will be enabled on your wiki, please read the deployment timeline.
- Wikifunctions will be deployed on May 27 on five Wiktionaries: Hausa, Igbo, Bengali, Malayalam, and Dhivehi/Maldivian. This is the second batch of deployment planned for the project. After deployment, the projects will be able to call functions from Wikifunctions and integrate them in their pages. A function is something that takes one or more inputs and transforms them into a desired output, such as adding up two numbers, converting miles into metres, calculating how much time has passed since an event, or declining a word into a case. Wikifunctions will allow users to do that through a simple call of a stable and global function, rather than via a local template.
- Later this week, the Wikimedia Foundation will publish a hub for experiments. This is to showcase and get user feedback on product experiments. The experiments help the Wikimedia movement understand new users, how they interact with the internet and how it could affect the Wikimedia movement. Some examples are generated video, the Wikipedia Roblox speedrun game and the Discord bot.
View all 29 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with creating an account using the API, which has now been fixed. [5]
Updates for technical contributors
- Gadgets and user scripts that interact with Special:Block may need to be updated to work with the new manage blocks interface. Please review the developer guide for more information. If you need help or are unable to adapt your script to the new interface, please let the team know on the talk page. [6]
- The
mw.title
object allows you to get information about a specific wiki page in the Lua programming language. Starting this week, a new property will be added to the object, namedisDisambiguationPage
. This property allows you to check if a page is a disambiguation page, without the need to write a custom function. [7] User script developers can use a new reverse proxy tool to load javascript and css from gitlab.wikimedia.org with
mw.loader.load
. The tool's author hopes this will enable collaborative development workflows for user scripts including linting, unit tests, code generation, and code review on gitlab.wikimedia.org without a separate copy-and-paste step to publish scripts to a Wikimedia wiki for integration and acceptance testing. See Tool:Gitlab-content on Wikitech for more information.Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki
Meetings and events
- The 12th edition of Wiki Workshop 2025, a forum that brings together researchers that explore all aspects of Wikimedia projects, will be held virtually on 21-22 May. Researchers can register now.
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Articles for Creation backlog drive
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Hello Sohom Datta:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in June!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 1 month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 June 2025 through 30 June 2025.
You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 3200 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
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DYK for Soumen Mitra
[edit]On 22 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soumen Mitra, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Soumen Mitra helped restore a building which had housed one of India's first mental asylums? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soumen Mitra. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Soumen Mitra), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Deletion review for List of birds of Lakshadweep
[edit]An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of birds of Lakshadweep. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Responded and restored. Sohom (talk) 01:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Please consider editing that closing statement?
- Newer users are often reluctant to approach the sysop who deleted their content, because they see that sysop as a hostile authority figure. DRV's rules do specifically allow users to come directly to DRV if they don't want to speak to the deleter.
- In the circumstances, I think putting criticism of that user in a box that they aren't supposed to edit or reply to is not very fair.—S Marshall T/C 08:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- cc @S Marshall, my closing comments there were very much in a "please do these things next time" tone rather than anything else more combative and I think it is clear that my restoration was unconditional and I bear no ill will here.
- While, I do understand that DRV rules allow a user come straight to the forum that is not how I, you or in most cases other new editors would have typically handled such a disagreement. As a non-admin, my first instinct would have been a simple "Hey, so and so page is actually a copy of a different page" which would have probably resulted in the restoration and is less work than a WP:DRV (and that was basically what I said in the closing statement).
- cc @Mitsingh feel free to use this section to reply to my closing statement on DRV if you want, or ask any questions you might have regarding it (or any other aspect of Wikipedia). If you do feel that the feedback given was unfair and should be removed, I will strike it. Sohom (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
May thanks
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Thank you for improving article quality in May. One of mine was Jadwiga Rappé. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
DYK for CSS fingerprinting
[edit]On 25 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article CSS fingerprinting, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that CSS can be used to track and identify you? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/CSS fingerprinting. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, CSS fingerprinting), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
Re: CSS fingerprinting
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Mass Surveillance Barnstar |
This is a good article, and it's a pretty important topic for browser tracking that I heard of for the first time, and probably a good few more people will hear about for the first time, in this article. Anyway, it was an interesting read. So, I'd like to award you the Mass Surveillance barnstar, from WikiProject Mass Surveillance. As I just had the idea after seeing the CSS fingerprinting article, you're its first recipient. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC) |
- Thank you! Nice to know you liked the article, it was a super interesting rabbit hole to dive into. I'm looking at improving a bunch of web privacy articles (like say Zombie cookie) over the next few weeks/months. :) Sohom (talk) 04:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Tech News: 2025-22
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Weekly highlight
- A community-wide discussion about a very delicate issue for the development of Abstract Wikipedia is now open on Meta: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. The discussion is open until June 12 at Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content, and every opinion is welcomed. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.
Updates for editors
- Since last week, on all wikis except the largest 20, people using the mobile visual editor will have additional tools in the menu bar, accessed using the new
+
toolbar button. To start, the new menu will include options to add: citations, hieroglyphs, and code blocks. Deployment to the remaining wikis is scheduled to happen in June. The
#ifexist
parser function will no longer register a link to its target page. This will improve the usefulness of Special:WantedPages, which will eventually only list pages that are the target of an actual red link. This change will happen gradually as the source pages are updated. [8]- This week, the Moderator Tools team will launch a new filter to Recent Changes, starting at Indonesian Wikipedia. This new filter highlights edits that are likely to be reverted. The goal is to help Recent Changes patrollers identify potentially problematic edits. Other wikis will benefit from this filter in the future.
- Upon clicking an empty search bar, logged-out users will see suggestions of articles for further reading. The feature will be available on both desktop and mobile. Readers of Catalan, Hebrew, and Italian Wikipedias and some sister projects will receive the change between May 21 and mid-June. Readers of other wikis will receive the change later. The goal is to encourage users to read the wikis more. Learn more.
- Some users of the Wikipedia Android app can use a new feature for readers, WikiGames, a daily trivia game based on real historical events. The release has started as an A/B test, available to 50% of users in the following languages: English, French, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, and Turkish.
- The Newsletter extension that is available on MediaWiki.org allows the creation of various newsletters for global users. The extension can now publish new issues as section links on an existing page, instead of requiring a new page for each issue. [9]
View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- The previously deprecated
ipblocks
views in Wiki Replicas will be removed in the beginning of June. Users are encouraged to query the newblock
andblock_target
views instead. Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki
Meetings and events
- Wikidata and Sister Projects is a multi-day online event that will focus on how Wikidata is integrated to Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects. The event runs from May 29 – June 1. You can read the Program schedule and register.
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it is the 7 millon article Jhoncena1234 (talk) 02:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Really doesn't matter. Article on Wikipedia need to be articles, not placeholders. Also this literally isn't a race. Sohom (talk) 02:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
hello
[edit]hi sohom datta, im memer(i came from wikikids), you became my mentor or somthing, so, hi i geus. Memer(fromwikikids) (talk) 10:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC)