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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 26

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Your GA nomination of Ochrophyte
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Your GA nomination of Ochrophyte
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GAN Reviews
Hi Snoteleks! I noticed you have some more articles at GAN, which is great. It would also be great if you are able to do some reviews as well, since you have a lot of experience with taxa articles now. I'd be happy to review Chrompodellid or Parvilucifera if you are able to review another Biology/Medicine GAN as well. I can also help you through the review or provide a second set of eyes if you'd like, the first review is definitely the hardest. Just let me know! Fritzmann (message me) 15:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hello there! I would like to start reviewing other GANs, it would be helpful for everyone. I haven't had much time lately but I will check the Biology/Medicine GANs for ones that could interest me. Thanks for suggesting this to me. —Snoteleks (Talk) 15:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Parvilucifera
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- I'm so honoured, thank you! — Snoteleks (talk) 22:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pseudofungi genera

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pseudofungi species

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- I do want both categories deleted, thank you. — Snoteleks (talk) 14:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pseudofungi taxa by rank

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Perkinsozoan orders

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Perkinsozoan taxa by rank

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Perkinsozoan classes

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- I do want all four categories deleted, thank you. — Snoteleks (talk) 12:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:SAR supergroup species

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Plasmodiophorid species

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- Yes please, I want both categories deleted. — Snoteleks (talk) 18:35, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Ochrophyte
On 15 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ochrophyte, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that ochrophyte algae have twice as many membranes around their chloroplasts as plants? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ochrophyte. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ochrophyte), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cercozoa superorders

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cercozoa suborders

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Plasmodiophorid taxa by rank

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Plasmodiophorid genera

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- @Liz, I apologize for so many speedy deletions suddenly. Yesterday I tried to do a Category redirect for all those pages, several times, but Wikipedia has seen me do it too many times and it started mistaking me for a bot. A red text message popped up in the edit page, telling me that I had to wait some time before trying to redirect another category. Any ideas how I could fix this? — Snoteleks (talk) 21:07, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's a new one for me. I've never heard of that. Do you know how to create a category redirect as opposed to an article redirect? It's {{category redirect|Category:Target category}}.
- I actually came to your talk page to warn you about emptying categories "out of process" rather than taking them to WP:CFD to be considered for deletion, renaming or merging. Is this an issue? Liz Read! Talk! 02:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz Yes, that's the template I have been using. I tried to redirect again and it looks like the cooldown period ended, because it finally lets me save the page. It's definitely a new one for me too. To be fair, I have been mass-redirecting categories for the past few days, perhaps Wikipedia has an automatic detection mechanism for such occurrences incase they are bots. — Snoteleks (talk) 11:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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Categorization
I think the edits you made like this one are wrong. Category:Trebouxiophyceae genera is a subcategory of Category:Chlorophyta genera, so you have put the article into both a caegory and its parent category. See WP:CATSPECIFIC; the exceptions to the rule that both a parent and child category are not used don't apply here. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I noticed this yesterday, but thank you for pointing it out. I initially was not aware of the Category:Trebouxiophyceae genera or other class-level categories. I have to move the genera to said categories instead of the general Category:Chlorophyta genera. — Snoteleks (talk) 10:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Taxonomy/Spirocuta
Hi. This edit has broken the taxobox system. It is the both the child and parent of different Classes, which logically cannot be. Have reverted for now. YorkshireExpat (talk) 19:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- @YorkshireExpat Could I see which children are in a class rank? — Snoteleks (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- User:Jts1882/taxonomybrowser.js will let you view all the children (with their rank) of a particular taxonomy template. Plantdrew (talk) 21:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew Thanks, that's really useful! It seems that one of the children no longer are recognized as a taxon, though... could I just delete it? — Snoteleks (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Actually none of the children are recognized now, what should I do? — Snoteleks (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can get taxonomy templates deleted if they aren't used by any articles and never will be (because the correspond to taxa that Wikpedia isn't going to recognize). Did you see Template:Taxonomy/Spirocuta/clade (and check its child templates)? Plantdrew (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, all articles of Spirocuta and its children taxa only refer to the Spirocuta/clade template. No articles exist for the obsolete taxa Heteronematina and Peranemea. — Snoteleks (talk) 22:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can get taxonomy templates deleted if they aren't used by any articles and never will be (because the correspond to taxa that Wikpedia isn't going to recognize). Did you see Template:Taxonomy/Spirocuta/clade (and check its child templates)? Plantdrew (talk) 22:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Actually none of the children are recognized now, what should I do? — Snoteleks (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew Thanks, that's really useful! It seems that one of the children no longer are recognized as a taxon, though... could I just delete it? — Snoteleks (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- User:Jts1882/taxonomybrowser.js will let you view all the children (with their rank) of a particular taxonomy template. Plantdrew (talk) 21:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 27

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- @Liz Thank you Liz. I redirected it now. — Snoteleks (talk) 22:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Endohelean taxa by rank

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- @Liz Thanks. It is redirected now. — Snoteleks (talk) 22:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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- @Wolverine XI Thank you for reviewing it! I must say I'm confused though, I don't remember working on the GAN talk, or noticing that the GAN review ever began. I will check if the article follows your recommendations/criticisms. — Snoteleks (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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Opisthosporidia
Eumycota as "cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa" is misinterpretation. Opisthosporidias definition (doi 10.3389/fmicb.2014.00112) was not cladistic, but includes following statements:
- superphylum includes three phyla: Microsporidia, Cryptomycota and Aphelida
- they are not fungi – it is a group of Opisthokonta, sister to Fungi
It could be transformed into a cladistic definition (≈ a clade that includes Rozella allomycis, Aphelidium deformans, Glugea weissenbergi but not Agaricus campestris) but it would be a not allowed "original research".
The statement Eumycota is cladistically included into Opisthosporidia is also an "original research", changing the definition of the taxon.
Correct statement is, that Opisthosporidia is a paraphyletic group, cladistically it does not exist (Eumycota is not included). Petr Karel (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- The thing is, cladistically Opisthosporidia does form a paraphyletic group toward Eumycota. Aphelida is more closely related to Eumycota, while Cryptomycota and Microsporidia are a separate clade (see: any phylogenetic analysis, including the one present in the Opisthosporidia article).
- The template {{Paraphyletic group}} is used correctly in this context. It is intended to be used for paraphyletic groups, where the
|includesparameter is what the paraphyletic group actually contains (for example, Crustacea includes all the crustacean classes), and the|excludesparameter is what its monophyletic counterpart contains (for example, Crustacea excludes Hexapoda even though Hexapoda has evolved from crustaceans; the monophyletic counterpart would be Pancrustacea). — Snoteleks (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can only agree with all you wrote, but the problem is the text "Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa", which is not correct. Is it originated in the template? Is it applied to all paraphyletic groups? There are taxons which are defined cladistically, but later the supposed grouping appear paraphyletic/polyphyletic and the definition is invalid (innerly inconsistent) so such taxon is not existing – in such cases the problematic text is a complete nonsens, if applied.
- Possible correct wording (I am not a native English speaker, language correction may be needed) "Taxa to be included to get a clade / to reach monophyly".
- Btw. cladistically the taxon including all Microsporidia, Cryptomycota, Aphelida, and Eumycota is not Opisthosporidia but Fungi, see the cladistic (PhyloCode like) definition (doi:10.5598/imafungus.2018.09.02.05):
- "Fungi R.T. Moore, Bot. Marina 23: 371 (1980)
- Definition: The smallest crown clade containing Rozella allomycis F.K. Faust 1937, Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis Longcore et al. 1999, Allomyces arbusculus E.J. Butler 1911, Entomophthora muscae (Cohn) Fresen.1856, Coemansia reversa Tiegh. & G. Le Monn. 1873, Rhizophagus intraradices (N.C. Schenck & G.S. Sm.) C. Walker & A. Schüßler 2010, Rhizopus oryzae Went & Prins. Geerl. 1895, Saccharomyces cerevisiae Meyen 1838, and Coprinopsis cinerea (Schaeff.) Redhead et al. 2001. This is a minimum-crown-clade definition." --Petr Karel (talk) 07:45, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is indeed something originated by the template itself, and is meant to apply to all paraphyletic groups with said template. I think the best solution is to ask in the template talk that the text be changed to "Cladistically excluded" instead of "Cladistically included but traditionally excluded", since I agree it is very confusing otherwise. — Snoteleks (talk) 18:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- "Fungi R.T. Moore, Bot. Marina 23: 371 (1980)
Protist: TSAR
I would be careful with TSAR, at least in formulations ("probable hypothesis" instead of fact). It is the result of analyses of one group of scientists and their citations by the same group (see the refs in SAR supergroup and Telonemia, documenting that TSAR "is widely accepted by the scientific community"). Do you know any analysis of an independent group, confirming this clade? I would appreciate it, but the history of placing many orphan groups into the eukarytic cladogram made me sceptical.
Thank you for your effort in updating and improving the phylogeny, I can only admire it. Petr Karel (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Petr Karel Good point. It is true that Telonemia is not often included in analyses. I did see an analysis that recovered TSAR, from a different group of scientists (doi:10.1038/s41586-018-0708-8), but another (albeit not yet peer-reviewed) did not have the same result (doi:10.21203/rs.3.rs-5059906/v1). I am definitely considering moving Telonemia into the orphan section and changing the title of this section to SAR, just to be safe, but maybe it could stay this way until it is disproven by a peer-reviewed analysis. In any case, thanks for bringing this into my attention, and for the feedback in general, much appreciated! — Snoteleks (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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