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US NC Templates

You made several edits in these templates. I am going to review these edits but I can see several that need to be reverted. For example you inserted Doris Brown Heritage in place of Doris Brown. That was not her name in most of her competitive career, she didn't marry Ralph Heritage until after winning most of those championships. Heritage was not published in those results. Also you eliminated lower placing American Champions. In the days when international athletes were allowed to enter the US Championships, they could be called champions but the true American champion was the first US citizen. Those names are still relevant. Trackinfo (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Trackinfo, thanks for reaching out. I wrote a script (User:Habst/getWikiWinners.js) to automatically generate these types of templates based on reading the historical results from Wikipedia, and I created a page List of USA Indoor Track and Field Championships winners to keep track and create the missing ones. We of course need for it to be correct, though, so open to feedback like this.

• Re: Doris Brown Heritage --  Done. I think that if she is most known by a different name, then her Wikipedia page should be moved to that name per WP:COMMONNAME. The script always links to the Wikipedia name for the person, and the policy WP:NAVNOREDIRECT says that redirects shouldn't be used in navboxes. That being said we can get around this by using a piped link, so I did that as a temporary fix.
• Listing top US finishers -- Should already be  Done. The script automatically can detect if the winner is a foreign guest and will keep going down the results until it finds the top American in each event, so this should already be done. In that case both the winner and American champion should be listed along with the top U.S. athlete's place. Are there any cases you found where this wasn't performed correctly?

P.S. The days in which international athletes were allowed to enter U.S. champs actually never ended. As recently as the 2024 United States Olympic trials (track and field), Lindon Victor was allowed to compete as a guest in the decathlon. They did it so that the meet was "international" and could be listed on the 2024 World Athletics Combined Events Tour and would provide extra ranking points so that it would be more likely the top 3 U.S. finishers would qualify.

Thanks, --Habst (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Re: Heritage. This is a timing issue, sometimes a billing issue with married women. Sydney McLaughlin, Marie-Josée Ta Lou, Chase Ealey, all can take a new name and format it the way they wish, change the master name of the article so it links, but that doesn't change the name they competed under before the change. Trackinfo (talk) 04:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Re:Victor Yes, a lot of these guys know each other and communicate. I know Victor, note who took his picture. He trains here. He likes to drop into competitions to work on a few events, he didn't take it seriously. He couldn't qualify for the Olympics from it. A few decades ago, these hot shots would come to the USA to run against and beat the Americans on their home soil. Eventually that is why they were no longer allowed in, taking lanes away from Americans. Trackinfo (talk) 05:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

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Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Flag IOC athlete non-Olympic

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Your GA nomination of 1901 Boston Marathon

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Just wanted to add my congratulations, and to encourage you to think about doing some GA reviews -- we are always short of reviewers, and you're an experienced editor and a good writer. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Road races map

Could you help me with adding two missing Platinum label races (London Marathon and Amsterdam Marathon) to the world map in 2024 World Athletics Label Road Races? I am not entirely sure how it was set up (perhaps the different colors could be briefly explained in the map caption?). – Editør (talk) 12:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Editør, thanks, I set it up by first creating the table on the page using User:Habst/getWaTour.js, then after I double checked that everything in the "Venue" column was a blue link, I used User:Habst/mapLocations.js to create the map. The 3 different colors are for gold, platinum, or platinum+gold (e.g. for two different races that are held in the same city).

I added London and Amsterdam with these edits. --Habst (talk) 12:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the markers and explaining the colors. – Editør (talk) 12:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of South American Youth Championships for deletion

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2025 Update from Women in Green

Hello Habst:

2024 has wrapped up, and what a full year it was for WikiProject Women in Green! Over the past year, we hosted two edit-a-thons, one themed around women's history and another on women around the world. We also managed to achieve most of our 2024 annual goals, nominating 75 articles for GA, reviewing 64 GA nominations, nominating 8 articles for FAC, peer reviewing 3 articles and reviewing 10 FAC nominations. Excellent work, and thank you to everyone involved!

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Help with drafts

Hey @Habst!

A few months back, I had created articles on various high school track meets I thought were significant, including Brooks PR Invitational, HOKA Festival of Miles, and Nike Indoor Nationals. They were draftified as I mostly sourced them to the event host which does not show notability.

I saw you had improved the Athlos article. If you'd like and if you think these meets pass notability guidelines, I was wondering if you want to split up the work for making properly sourced mainspace articles for these three championships? Since NON has an article, NIN probably should as well. Brooks PR and HOKA Festival of Miles I feel are worthy of articles too since they represent significant high school and/or pro meetings.

If not, not worries. Cheers! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 14:48, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @KnowledgeIsPower9281, OK, I'll take a look at those. I think they should be notable and doing a WP:Newspapers.com search I can see a few sources already. --Habst (talk) 15:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey @KnowledgeIsPower9281, thanks for starting the work on this. I improved Brooks PR Invitational and moved it to mainspace. Here are some tips for the rest:

• The lede should be more than one sentence and should be encyclopedic, i.e. avoid terms like "major" or WP:PEACOCK words unless they're sourced to a reliable third party not affiliated with the event like a newspaper.
• A table of editions should be added with sources for each, because that's typical in most meet articles and it's important to at least get the date of establishment. For example Brooks PR started as an indoor meeting but that wasn't in the draft at first.
• Usually least one newspaper source should be included with significant prose (i.e. paragraphs and not just results listings), you can apply for free Newspapers.com access at WP:Newspapers.com to search for and create clippings which is helpful for this.

Can you try to revise the other two articles with this in mind and I can look them over? --Habst (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Habst! Thank you for the feedback! I'll get these done when I can and I'll give you a ping when they're improved! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)