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Caschei River

I see quite a few scholarly biological articles refer to the Caschei River, a river in southern Ethiopia (possibly between Lake Turkana and Lake Chew Bahir). Can anyone provide any more details about this river? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 00:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at River

There is a discussion about the proposed content of the River article at the talk page that may be of interest to this project. ForksForks (talk) 13:13, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox for Willamette River?

Anyone interested in creating a helpful navbox (Template:Willamette River) from the entries in Category:Willamette River? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Tonlé Sap#Requested move 10 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tonlé Sap#Requested move 10 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans 17:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

River AfD

The notability of two rivers in Italy is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Limentra di Sambuca. Your contribution is welcome. Markussep ^Talk 07:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

River Ock, Surrey

The map in the infobox for River Ock, Surrey incorrectly shows the location of the River Ock in the Vale of White Horse. The co-ordinates in the article seem to be correct, so I have no idea why it is displaying incorrectly. Someone who knows how to fix this, please will you? Thankyou. Motacilla (talk) 09:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No map was defined in the original infobox, I've done a bodge to, at least, get it in the right place. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

River related discussion

Here you can find a discussion about an article on a waterfall. Thanks in advance for your contributions, --Pampuco (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Tana (Norway)#Requested move 28 December 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tana (Norway)#Requested move 28 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 20:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance - Palani Falls

In May 2024, I created an article on a surge waterfall located in Himachal Pradesh, Palani Falls. The article has remained unreviewed ever since, primarily due to a lack of sufficient reliable sources.

While an editor, User:Voorts, pointed out that the article clearly lacked enough reliable sources and questioned its notability, he did not rule out the possibility that the subject might merit an article. He referred me to Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers for assistance and help.

While I admit some of the sources in the article are questionable, I believe the subject does meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for geographical features. Other published articles in the same or similar category would be Ninai Falls, Rehala Falls, Hirni Falls or Purwa Falls, to name a few.

In the context of Indian geography, and more specifically the geography and ecology of Himachal Pradesh, I hold that the topic of the article, Palani Falls, is relevant and notable. I request help with referencing on the article. This may be a stretch, but I would also appreciate co-authors, if any.

If this isn't the right place to ask, do give me a heads-up. Regards, Dissoxciate (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question on consistency in naming

I've done a little editing to a couple articles on streams in Erie County, Pennsylvania and I noticed that the disambiguation among them is not exactly consistent. Some are disambiguated by what they are a tributary of while others are disambiguated by being in Pennsylvania. While it seems both follow the WikiProject naming convention, the inconsistency kinda bugs me. Would any moving be warranted? TornadoLGS (talk) 21:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Before changing a disambiguator from (tributary of ) to (Pennsylvania), make sure the other is not also in Pennsylvania! —Tamfang (talk) 02:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've not seen (tributary of ) used precisely as the disambiguator. I've come to prefer the (Parent river tributary) formulation, but there are cases where the same name is used for several tributaries of same parent river, so some other disambiguation is needed. Also note that where the parent river is used by itself in parentheses, for example Beaver Run (County Line Branch), I think in a past discussion there was agreement that Beaver Run (County Line Branch tributary) is preferred, but of course there should be redirects in place either way. older ≠ wiser 12:54, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for River Avon, Bristol

River Avon, Bristol has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should we have separate creek and river categories?

Over the past few days, Volcanoguy has started to split river categories into rivers and creeks. For example:

I'd like to discuss whether editors think we should split these types of categories.

A relevant guideline is the defining characteristic criterion:

Defining characteristics of an article's topic are central to categorizing the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to in describing the topic, such as the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place.

Is the distinction between a creek and a river a defining characteristic? Volcanoguy appears to have used the fact that a stream was named "creek" to sort into the creek category. Do we wish to categorize based on the name of a stream?

There have been previous discussions that may be relevant. In 2016, editors decided to merge river and stream categories. That discussion considered whether "creek" was a term in a national variety of English. There was also a smaller discussion in 2016 that decided to merge a few "creek" categories back into "river" categories.

If we decide the merge the "creek" categories, the question arises what should we merge back into? We could simply undo the split and merge back into the "rivers" category. Volcanoguy has suggested using "watercourses" as the name in the category, which was also suggested in the 2016 merge discussion. I'm going to make two subsections below to discuss (a) whether we should keep the "creek" categories and (b) what to name the resulting merged categories.

Pinging participants in the 2016 discussion: Agathoclea, Antepenultimate, AussieLegend, Aymatth2, Bermicourt, BU_Rob13, Carlossuarez46, Czar, Daniel Case, DanTD, DexDor, Dimadick, Es0884, Ezhiki, First Light, Gjs238, Jemmans, Herostratus, HyperGaruda, Jakec, Jc37, Jokulhlaup, Kerry Raymond, Lankiveil, Laurel Lodged, Lemongirl942, Le Deluge, Marcocapelle, Mark Hurd, Neutrality, Novarupta, Nyttend, Od Mishehu, Pampuco, PanchoS, Peterkingiron, PaulBetteridge, Presidentman, Rathfelder, Renata3, RevelationDirect, RioHondo, Stevietheman, Tevildo, TheCatalyst31, TimK MSI, Vandraedha, YBG

— hike395 (talk) 12:34, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Creek is mostly an American term. I dont think it works in a wider context. Rathfelder (talk) 12:52, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question Could we have a brief summary of the status quo (and the effect of the proposed changes) to assist with the discussion? A very quick look at the existing categories would suggest that all watercourses, of any size, are listed under "River" categories, and the proposal is to split off a subset of these into "Creek" categories, but this may be wrong. Tevildo (talk) 13:08, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shall we create creek categories?

Yes, although we should reserve the option of using "Bridges over Rivers" categories for both rivers and creeks. -------User:DanTD (talk) 12:45, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently somebody didn't understand what I was saying. I thought it was fairly clear, but yes I do think there should be separate categories for rivers and creeks, and make more creek categories. But I also think the subcategory "Bridges over rivers in (Foo)" should apply to both, as well as streams, and other waterways when necessary. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, first because "creek" means something different in American English and in British English, and second because there is no objective cutoff when a creek starts to become a river or vice versa. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. Agree with Marcocapelle, they mean different things in Anerican and British English.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:32, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No Even in American English, "creek" can mean both a freshwater stream and a saltwater inlet (Tidal creek) or passage between islands (see the creeks in Overseas Highway). There is no firm distinction between creek and river in the names of streams in the U.S. For instance, Econfina Creek has a greater flow than Econfina River (a blogger has opined that Econfina Creek is a river while Econfina River is a creek). - Donald Albury 14:21, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What shall we name the merged categories?

If we decide to merge. — hike395 (talk) 12:34, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Technically "watercourse" is correct, but "river" is used more often. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:23, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would say we should use the Rivers and streams, as the first article, Abadi Creek, on the says Abadi Creek is a stream, so is recognised as a stream.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:36, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Rivers and streams" would avoid the WP:ENGVAR and avoid trying to determin when a stream is big enough to be a river, or vice versa. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:41, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Either rivers and streams or watercourses. YBG (talk) 13:45, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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 * '''No''', first because "creek" means something different in American English and in British English, and second because there is no objective cutoff when a creek starts to become a river or vice versa. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 13:19, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
 * '''No'''. Agree with [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]], they mean different things in Anerican and British English.[[User:Davidstewartharvey|Davidstewartharvey]] ([[User talk:Davidstewartharvey|talk]]) 13:32, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
+* '''No''' Even in American English, "creek" can mean both a freshwater stream and a saltwater inlet ([[Tidal creek]]) or passage between islands (see the creeks in [[Overseas Highway]]). There is no firm distinction between creek and river in the names of streams in the U.S. For instance, [[Econfina Creek]] has a greater flow than [[Econfina River]] (a blogger has opined that Econfina Creek is a river while Econfina River is a creek). - [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 14:21, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
-* '''No'''. I came to this conclusion primarily because there is no definite dividing line, but then read the other !vites and realized that [[WP:ENGVAR]] is an even stronger reason. [[User:YBG|YBG]] ([[User talk:YBG|talk]]) 13:58, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
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