Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 April 5
April 5
- Template:Mss (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template isn't really in use. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:17, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Implausible as it is for me to support keeping anything Neelix created, in this case I can see that even if it's not currently in use, it's a template with a legitimate use case that would be quite fiddly to recreate manually. If someone else has a claim for the name—as a three-character name it's quite valuable real estate—I'd have no issue with renaming it to something else. ‑ Iridescent 21:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete: I think any applications of this template can use {{tts}} instead as necessary. --Izno (talk) 19:31, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Lights Out (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Not enough links to warrant a navbox. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 11:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nom. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Cr-IPL (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Completely useless template, it's easier to just use the team name rather than the template for the team. And if team name changes, that forces a new template- no such issue with just linking the name Joseph2302 (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Subst and delete although we'll need to check that all the current links are correct before subst'ing. This template is an attempt to solve an issue that doesn't really exist. – PeeJay 17:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Technical question : Is the substing a straight-forward process, as we'd have to figure that out before going ahead with the deletion? I tried doing a {{tl:subst}} on a related PSL article, and it left a load of code in the article rather than just the link I was hoping for. Spike 'em (talk) 09:24, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure... this would also mean the need for deleting Cr-BBL (which is never used), Cr-BPL, Cr-CPL and Cr-PSL templates. Human (talk) 17:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, I'd be fine with that. – PeeJay 21:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The BPL and PSL templates use made-up flags to represent the team colours. These were deleted back in 2011 for the IPL templates, and I think this is the real reason the templates exist : to add additional icon adornment which is not needed. The CPL uses national flags for the team (I think) and should go the same way. The BBL ones do not use any flags, so it seems the maintainers of those articles have taken the sensible choice not to use the templates and go for straight links. Spike 'em (talk) 08:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- In that case the BBL one should also be deleted since it is not of any use. I've started a discussion about this today here. Human (talk) 10:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- The BPL and PSL templates use made-up flags to represent the team colours. These were deleted back in 2011 for the IPL templates, and I think this is the real reason the templates exist : to add additional icon adornment which is not needed. The CPL uses national flags for the team (I think) and should go the same way. The BBL ones do not use any flags, so it seems the maintainers of those articles have taken the sensible choice not to use the templates and go for straight links. Spike 'em (talk) 08:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yep, I'd be fine with that. – PeeJay 21:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Agree with PeeJay, Subst and Delete. I believe the templates were originally created with psuedo-flags for the teams, which would make them work in a similar way to {{Cr}}, but once those were rightfully removed then they became just a shortcut to entering an simple, unpiped wikilink. There are extra uses that are just downright cumbersome (e.g.
{{Cr-IPL|kolk-r}}
which outputs a text string of "Kolkotta". Spike 'em (talk) 18:00, 5 April 2019 (UTC) - Agree with the reasons above. Subst and Delete. Sa Ga Vaj 23:00, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Subst and Delete ,with above reason(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2019 (UTC))
- Subst and delete per above reasoning. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sub-del per all the above. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:22, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Globalize (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Australia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Canada (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/China (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Common law (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Commonwealth realms (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Eng (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Europe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/France (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Germany (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Japan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Middle East (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/New Zealand (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/North America (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Northern (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/South Africa (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/South Korea (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/Southern (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/UK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/UK and Canada (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/US and UK (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/US (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Globalize/West (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging all Template:Globalize sub-templates with the main template. See also 11 July 2010 discussion.
It seems ridiculous to me to have half a million templates that are effectively the same. So I propose that instead everything is merged to {{Globalize}}, with a new structure {{Globalize|TOPIC}}
. Categorization can then be added automatically by the template, and created new categories becomes a cinch. Creating {{Globalize/Uganda}} would involve a lot more effort than simply supporting {{Globalize|Uganda}}
. And we also save the trouble of having half a million templates to independently maintain, with independent talk pages, independant documentation pages, and so on. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support – Sounds like a good idea to me. —Joeyconnick (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support Good solution. Miniapolis 19:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Steven (Editor) (talk) 19:31, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support: per nomination. I do wonder about the original purpose of all the categories, however. —Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 23:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support a really great suggestion that makes a lot of sense, and for the reasons proposed. Two issues that should be addressed also, @Headbomb. I suggest template works something like
{{Globalize|TOPIC1|TOPIC2}}
for the "Globalize X AND Y" topics above for ease of use, and added to the respective categories for topics 1 and 2 and etc. Also note that some topics eg "Globalize US" display to readers as "... United States..." on the talk page, which will need to be taken into account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom (LT) (talk • contribs) 05:18, April 6, 2019 (UTC) - Support per nomination. MSG17 (talk) 14:08, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support Quite sensible solution. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support why isn't it already like this? --Daviddwd (talk) 19:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. No need for the ridiculous amount of subpages when a bit of template magic would suffice. — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 21:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support as a basic application of common sense. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Rfam box (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox rfam (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Rfam box with Template:Infobox rfam.
Overlapping scope; "infobox done wrong"; latter is more systemic. Artoria2e5 🌉 13:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Rfam box | Infobox Rfam |
---|---|
acc | Rfam |
description | Name |
type | RNA_type |
image | image |
abbreviation | Symbol |
- Merge - {{Rfam box}} has only 30 uses while the other has over 1k. {{Infobox rfam}} is lacking in documentation, but going by the title and articles, it seems they serve the same
Unnecessary overlap and sub-selection of Template:Super Mario. Everything on this navbar is on the parent navbar, which is not so large as to necessitate breaking them out. This navbar is simply duplicating links from another navbar on every page it is on. -- ferret (talk) 12:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 14:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox surname (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox given name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Infobox surname with Template:Infobox given name.
Much overlapping variables, and for a reason. In fact in many if not in most cases historically and internationally, a surname is or was a given name. It might be time to finally merge this? PPEMES (talk) 11:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Navbox is redundant to just doing {{Africa in topic|Hinduism in}}
. Was previously unused and all current transclusions used the above code. I attempted to CSD under T3, but a user replace the code above with this template. No reason for this template to be used at all. In my opinion this still is a WP:T3. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
@Zackmann08: mistake? Christian75 (talk) 19:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)- (The TfD said template:example (or similar) in the original tfd Christian75 (talk) 08:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC))
- Zackmann08, I think you might find it that people will be a bit less exasperated if you listened to what they'd said to you before bombarding them with the next deletion notice. Now, as I've explained on my talk page,
{{Africa in topic}}
is a quick and dirty way to create a variety of navboxes that might be suitable for some circumstances, but it doesn't really wor here. See for example how this template appears on Hinduism in Sierra Leone: you see quite a few redlinks (most of them permanently so: they were formerly blue but got deleted at AfD or RfD), and most of the blue links are actually redirects, usually to broad articles where Hinduism (or the country) are only mentioned in passing. If you want a navbox consisting mostly of redirects and redlinks, then yes, {{Africa in topic}} will do just fine. But if you want a navbox that does what navboxes are expected to do – navigate between articles, then you can't easily avoid having a dedicated template like {{Hinduism in Africa}}. The situation, however, gets complicated by the existence of {{Hinduism by country}}, which I've just noticed now. In a way, this makes {{Hinduism in Africa}} (+ {{Hinduism in Oceania}} and the like) redundant. Its downside is that it is a sidebar. So the question is, do we prefer a sidebar or navboxes at the bottom of the article. Personally, I'd opt for the less intrusive navboxes, but I'd rather leave the issue to others to decide. – Uanfala (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Uanfala, way to Wp:AGF... I listened to what you said and I disagreed. Rather than leaving the WP:T3 template on the page, which I could have done as it is a hard-coded instance, I chose to move this to a TFD so that we could discuss the issue. Rather than doing so, you chose to accuse me of ignoring you and bombarding you with notices... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:45, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Oppose, the replacement gives a lot of red links and a lot of redirect to articles which barely mention the topic if at all. The red links will probably be (re)created. Christian75 (talk) 08:11, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
If one intends to connect the various remakes of the same film, creating a character map is not the solution. Rather, one could consider creating a navbox. This film already has that. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:33, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Linking to the previous TfD from last year. – Uanfala (talk) 00:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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- A delete here is reasonable. --Izno (talk) 16:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Nuvvostanante Nenoddantana character map (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
I don't think character maps like this should even exist. The reason of connecting the different remakes of the same film should be solved by a navbox. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:26, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete is reasonable here, but I'd like to see the navbox first I think. --Izno (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Unused navbox with only 4 links. WP:NENAN Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- It can be expanded with the dozen or so articles in Category:Mosques in Lebanon. – Uanfala (talk) 22:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Use - I've added the links to the template, which Uanfala refereed to, This seems like a decent scope template. --Gonnym (talk) 11:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Now has more links, but is still unused
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