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    Intergovernmental Agencies

    How do we cite graphs and data tables from intergovernmental agencies and non-profits, including the World Health Organization and World Bank? Lbockhorn (talk) 14:18, 19 March 2012 (UTC)lbockhorn[reply]

    Well you would cite the publication or web page that they appeared on, perhaps giving a page number or figure number. Icannot see a copyright question here. The copyright applies for the country it was first published in. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:20, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    So publications from the WHO would be cited as what? they were all taken down with proper citations because they did not have a copyright tag. Lbockhorn (talk) 05:52, 27 March 2012 (UTC)lbockhorn[reply]

    World Health Organisation. Publications from these organisations should not be loaded here unless they ahve become public domain for some reason. The lack of a copyright tag does not mean no copyright applies. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Terrorist Group Copyrights?

    I'm trying to get clarification on whether or not US-designated terrorist groups have a copyright on their material. Specifically for File:NickBergandFiveMen.JPG and File:Iraq shooting down.gif. If not, are they considered fair use or public domain? My reason for asking is I'd like to replace the picture "File:Iraq shooting down.gif" with the actual video if possible. Palm_Dogg (talk) 12:24, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no special rules for copyright belonging to terrorist groups as far as I know, so they are presumably subject to the standard rules. Iraq has no copyright relations with the United States, so images matching all of the following criteria are in the public domain in the United States (and possibly in all countries except for Iraq):
    • Made by a citizen of Iraq (or Iran, Afghanistan or a handful of other countries).
    • Made by a resident of Iraq (or Iran, Afghanistan or a handful of other countries).
    • First published in Iraq (or Iran, Afghanistan or a handful of other countries) and not printed elsewhere within 30 days. Note that publications only count as publications if approved by the photographer. Unpublished material is copyrighted.
    That said, there is an ongoing RfC on the topic at WT:C#RfC: What to do with respect to the copyright of countries with which the US does not have copyright relations? and the outcome might be that material from these countries aren't allowed on Wikipedia despite being in the public domain in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Skatie.jpg in Katie Peretti

    Does use of this image in "Katie Peretti" article meet standards of WP:NFCC? --George Ho (talk) 07:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Just like the Spandau Ballet question above, there is no critical commentary that would justify the use of this non-free image so it fails WP:NFCC#8. There is already one non-free image to identify the subject so it fails WP:NFCC#3a. ww2censor (talk) 14:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The person who added, not uploaded, supercouples photos in Katie Peretti, Holden Snyder, and Lily Walsh Snyder was Casanova88. I wonder if anybody here can contact that person. --George Ho (talk) 19:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Permanently deleting original-resolution non-free screenshots

    Hello,
    if I recall correctly, there was a bot in en-wiki earlier that deleted disused historical versions of non-free images. My understanding has been that we generally only accept reduded-resolution uploads of non-free software screenshots, which is why I halved the resolution of File:Belle shot.jpg (the screenshot image for Symbian) back in January. Since then, the original image has resurfaced and the reduced-resolution copy been replaced on a few occasions, latest here. So I am writing to ask for a sysop to remove the original-resolution version from the file history of File:Belle shot.jpg altogether to avoid future problems.

    Note that some people seem to believe that because the Symbian kernel has been open-sourced, the mobile phone screenshots are also freely licensed. However, this is not the case, as the look&feel of all Symbian UI layers is proprietary and copyrighted under the relevant laws. --hydrox (talk) 22:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    After reducing a file, remember to tag it with {{subst:furd}}. An admin will normally delete the old version a week after that tag has been added. Instead of reducing an image yourself, you can use {{non-free reduce}}. In that case, a bot will reduce the image for you and tag with {{subst:furd}}, normally saving you some time. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Great. Thanks for the info! --hydrox (talk) 15:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    what is your name — Preceding unsigned comment added by Momo18nit (talk • contribs) 17:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The First Colored Senator and Representatives

    This image [1] has enormous historial potential for the project. It appears to be a work of Currier and Ives. If this is the case it should be in the public domain. Is it? Thanks, – Lionel (talk) 11:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a webpage with the link to that? It'd be nice if we had something more than the filename to confirm who made it, and any more information we could find would be very useful. I don't really see that there's much concern about it being public domain, though; it's clearly contemporaneous with the first black senators and representatives, the last of whom left office by 1901, making it clearly PD in the US.--Prosfilaes (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It is used about half way down the page here. —teb728 t c 08:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The Wandering Songstress

    This article consists of lyrics that are still copyrighted in People's Republic of China. According to wikisource:Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (2010) and wikisource:Copyright Law of the People's Republic of China (1990), lyrics have 50 p.m.a. Writer died in 1968. URAA restored copyrights of this song in 1996 when it was still copyrighted in China. Are lyrics allowed there? --George Ho (talk) 18:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    No, it is still in copyright till 2018 in PRC, even without the ridiculous 1996 US extension. So it should not be in Wikisource, unless a copyright holder has released a free license. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:38, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay... what about the article itself? Shall I remove the lyrics from the article? --George Ho (talk) 10:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Little Dancer of Fourteen Years.jpg

    Is this image copyrighted, even though the 3d artwork is out of copyright already? --George Ho (talk) 21:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The sculpture is in PD, but a photograph of a 3-D work is subject to copyright because of creative choices like lighting and viewing angle. —teb728 t c 08:20, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    This is why the uploader has added {{GFDL-self}} to license his copyright in the photo.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Still, there is no proof that the uploader himself is the photographer of this image, unless I missed something. We still have OTRS. --George Ho (talk) 23:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I would say that this is {{di-no permission}}. The original uploader used {{GFDL-no-disclaimers}}. タチコマ robot later changed it to {{GFDL}}, MGA73bot changed it to {{GFDL|migration=relicense}}, George Ho changed it to {{GFDL-user|Treysheik|migration=relicense}} and MGA73bot finally changed it to the current {{GFDL-self|migration=relicense}}. Since the "self" part wasn't added by the uploader, we don't know whether the photographer and the uploader are the same. I've now removed the "self" part from the licence tag since we have no evidence that it is correct. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    2009 Belgium Commemorative coin use in Louis Braille article

    Would it be acceptable to use an image of a Belgium Commemorative coin created in 2009 in the Honors and Tributes section of the Louis Braille article. MorganKevinJ(talk) 17:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    STOP ERA

    Is the "STOP ERA" stop sign here in the public domain? It appears to be too simple to copyright. – Lionel (talk) 23:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    • Looks like a derivative work of a standard STOP traffic sign. STOP signs are probably in the public domain because they are old, ineligible for copyright and in some countries also because they are government works. I would say that the extra information added to the sign is very simple, so I am inclined to say that this is ineligible for copyright. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Sounds logical to me, thanks!!! – Lionel (talk) 14:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Media copyright questions. You have new messages at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:STOP ERA.gif.
    You can remove this notice at any time.

    – Lionel (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Martin S. Bergmann

    Can I use a screenshot of Prof. Martin S. Bergmann from either Adam Curtis' 'Century of the Self', or Woody Allen's 'crimes and misdemeanours' (both feature Bergmann). I mean a screenshot from youtube or google video. I seem to remember that video screenshots bypass the copyright rule... Am I wrong? --Torsrthidesen (talk) 16:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:NFCC applies to non-free screenshots, the same as any other non-free content. What you may be thinking of is that sometimes a screenshot can be used to show how fictional character looks to significantly increase reader understanding of source commentary on the appearance. —teb728 t c 00:39, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    So in answer: If he appears more or less the same in the screenshot as he does in life, you can't use a screenshot, for it could be replaced by a free photo. —teb728 t c 00:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, thank you. In other words, no chance of a photo, as there are no non-copyright photos of him online...? (Since he does look like himself in the videos) --Torsrthidesen (talk) 06:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    are data considered text?

    I would like to use the numbers in a table that appears in Simpson's paradox in Wikipedia in a textbook that I'm trying to write. Would I need to ask permission? Or would these data be considered to be regular text (and therefore free for use under the sharing license)? Moshepollak (talk) 20:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The text on Wikipedia is already granted with permission to use subject to some requirements. You can publish the table as an item with appropriate attribution, of which the simplest would be a link to the Wikipedia article it is in and the license (CC-BY-SA-3.0). The data itself is just data from real world examples and you can publish this in some other presentation, eg text, a different style of table with different ordering or columns of different width or colour schemes, so there are creative choices made, that you could use other choices in your own publication if you want to avoid attribution and license requirements. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:14, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Image of Jean Baptiste Besard

    Dear Wikipedians, I am preparing (sandboxing) an article and I dearly wish to use an image of Jean Baptiste Besard. The image I want to use is available at a number of websites (e.g. here, here and here as well). All are identical and are obviously reproductions of an image created centuries ago. I have previously attempted to upload a copy of it to commons but some admin (or bot) deleted it citing copyright concerns. I would be grateful for guidance on how to proceed as I believe it to be well out of copyright. Thanks in advance. --Jschnur (talk) 23:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are asking about File:Besard Jean Baptiste.jpg, it was deleted from Wikipedia (not Commons) under WP:CSD#F4, which presumably means that you did not provide a tag indicating its copyright status. That's what the message on your user talk page says too. —teb728 t c 01:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I want meaning and sentences of some words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.82.71 (talk) 08:27, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Try uploading it here, and using the {{pd-old}} tag - work was clearly first published well before 1923. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-free images were incorrectly removed in my opinion. I would like the opinion of others. Could some of you please comment on the talk page section Talk:Jayne Mansfield in popular culture#Images removed? Thank you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Mike branson.jpg

    Does this image meet WP:NFCC? Some editor removed it from Mike Branson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) because it is used as a "general illustration" of a living person. --George Ho (talk) 21:45, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-free photos of people who are still alive are almost never allowed, see WP:NFC#UUI §1 and wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy#Resolution §3, if the purpose of the image is to tell what the person looks like. I would usually tag such images as "replaceable fair use," typically resulting in deletion after 48 hours. The article doesn't tell if the man is alive or not. I also checked all of the listed sources and couldn't find any information except that he hasn't been active since 2002. If he is no longer alive, the image might be acceptable. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:15, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Look at User talk:‎Hullaballoo Wolfowitz#‎Removing non-free image from Mike Branson. Does he have a point about this, or is his rationale of removing this image too thin, vague, and flimsy to constitute removal? --George Ho (talk) 22:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I think Hullaballoo is right. You and I have previously discussed using a photo of a child actor where the individual later retired from an acting career, and is now only visually known as the child actor. That article explained that the image showed how he looked when he was working as an actor. This is just a photo of the guy looking toned - for all we know, he still looks like that, and you could get a photo of him in his backyard looking like that. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:44, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    To this logic, non-free image of a child actor may pass. However, image of a toned man fails. If this image fails, then File:Kip Knoll Kip Noll.jpg fails, as well, correct? --George Ho (talk) 23:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, unless he is dead or looks completely different now. He was active much longer ago, so the probability that he is dead by now is higher, although we would need a source for that. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There are two factors in play - the length of time (the longer ago, the more likely he doesn't look like this any more) and the degree to which it represents what he was known for looking like. Your child star was in a soap opera, so naturally looked the same in each episode. Is the same true of this chap? There's also the added thought that unfortunately with older porn stars the more likely it is he is dead, as they seem to have a higher tendency to die young. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Well... image of Kip Noll was created in the 1980s by Falcon Studios. There is no way that his hair is the same or he looks the same today as he was in the 1980s. There is no way either that he is different. Either way, that image is nearly 30 years old. Look at infobox picture of Jack Wrangler. --George Ho (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's what I'm saying. The longer the gap between the photo and now, the more "this is him when he was famous" comes into play. If he always looked much like that in films, that helps too. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Wendy Richard MBE Medal 2000.jpg

    In the wake of File:Margaret Tyzack CBE 2010.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), I wonder if an image of Wendy Richard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) with her MBE medal is acceptable. If not, shall I re-include two images of her from Are You Being Served? and EastEnders? --George Ho (talk) 23:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    George, the problem isn't that it shows her with her gong. It's that the image belongs to an image bureau (Getty, Associated Press, Press Association, those kinds of folks) who make a living out of selling images to people. You should never use an image from this kind of source in the infobox, only in the body of the article with sourced commentary on the image. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Since the article mentions her MBE title in one or two sentences, I removed the image and then brought back the previous revision. --George Ho (talk) 00:50, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Clarification: Images from press associations are almost never OK even if a non-free image would be allowed in an article, see WP:NFCC#2. Press association images are only allowed in a few exceptional cases, for example Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, where the image is the subject of the article. --Stefan2 (talk) 01:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    File:Nachiket Dighe.jpg

    Hi this is regarding File:Nachiket Dighe.jpg.

    How/what do I change to update the proper license?

    this photo was published in the news paper and I have taken it from its online page Weblink:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hogwarts-in-hindi/204825/2

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