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The result was keep. Nominator expressed they might withdraw their nomination but were suggested to let it run it's course. It was pointed that WP:GNG is met - as cited in the discussion. The consensus was unanimous keep. (non-admin closure) HilssaMansen19 (talk) 07:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Statue of Tom Seaver (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm more concerned that the statue's notability is inherent rather than independent, despite the sources. Sure, detailing the statue is nice for readers to know, but such relevant info is mergeable into the parent article, Tom Seaver § Awards and honors. Also, I can't help wonder whether the article as-is violates WP:NOTNEWS or WP:NOTEVERYTHING. George Ho (talk) 05:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts, Baseball, and New York. George Ho (talk) 05:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Despite being the creator of this article, I suppose I should give the reasoning behind this. I'd argue keep; the statue notable in it being the first - and, to date, only - MLB park statue in NYC. Its also one of the few statues of sportspeople in NYC in general, depicting an iconic cultural figure of the city. Its also one of the few noteworthy statues in Queens, New York.
- Its also a statue which was long fought for and which caused considerable controversey due to the timing of its announcement after the depictee's diagnosis with dementia and, a year later, untimely death. There is more than enough reasonable info about the statue itself to justify a fork, rather than unnecessarily loading up the main article with extra details about the controversy surrounding the statue. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:04, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, meets GNG and per Omnis Scientia. I could repeat much of what they say above, and argue further for keeping this unique and important statue, but what comes to mind about this nomination is, why? Randy Kryn (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
what comes to mind about this nomination is, why?
Maybe you'll see me as too prejudiced, but do I need to explain myself about something this obvious? If that's not obvious, I'll ask this: Do we need (a flood of) other articles about statues of certain athletes, like this person? Sure, a statue is of an honor, but a standalone article about this statue... Seriously, is this suitable for the project? Other than the inscription,( I see no other content that is not mergeable to the parent article, IMO. I fail to see how this article would grow over time, honestly. (No offense to the article creator.) George Ho (talk) 12:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)- It's not obvious while both reading the article and noticing its references. This is the first statue placed outside one of the ballparks in New York City, it honors a person many consider the team's all-time greatest player, and was placed while Seaver was still alive in hopes that he would be aware of it. Statues regularly have articles on Wikipedia, including many pages about sport statues. Notable in several directions. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This seems to have significant coverage in NY Times and, to a lesser extent, the NY Daily News and Reuters. The proposed statue had coverage several years before it was actually unveiled, and there was also some coverage in CBS Sports and Fox News about the statue having an incorrect jersey number. I think the nominator's argument of WP:NOTEVERYTHING isn't exactly applicable here, since one could just rebut with WP:NOTPAPER. However, I will say that the sourcing I found isn't enough to expand this beyond more than a start-class article, at least for the moment. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- As the initiator, I may have to withdraw this nomination if there are no "delete" or "merge" votes within very short time (i.e. reasonably shorter time than a week) if not less than a week. —George Ho (talk) 18:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- You don't need to. You can just wait for the natural course of the discussion. MarioGom (talk) 08:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with Mario on this one. Let it run its course. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - meets GNG. While there could be an argument to merge with the Tom Seaver article (though not delete), the statue is a separate entity from the person, and so is appropriate for a standalone article, and a detailed discussion of the statue within the Tom Seaver article would give it undue weight in that article. Rlendog (talk) 15:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Charles S. Dorion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mainly notability concerns per WP:ARTIST, as well as some ambiguity over whether all sources refer to the same individual. See talk page discussion for more details. Pineapple Storage (talk) 12:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Sources 7 and 8 are trivial mentions of the individual, not about his the artist... Nothing found otherwise, Getty ULAN only has a Pierre, born a century later [1]. There just isn't enough about this person to have even a stub article. Oaktree b (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The doggerel gives this stub a certain quaint appeal, but doesn't make up for the lack of notability. -- Hoary (talk) 01:39, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. — CactusWriter (talk) 22:58, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Graffiti in Houston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of passing WP:GNG. Paradoctor (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per GNG. Plenty of sources shared on the article's talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- A) Sources belong in the article.
- B) None of the sources is about the article's topic, which is "Graffitti in Houston". Where are the sources that describe and analyze Graffitti in Houston as a whole? Put this stuff into the article, and you have The Simpsons, but consisting only of descriptions of a handful of episodes.
- Where are the sources that describe the scene as a whole, compare it to other local scenes, present a history of Houston graffitt? That's what you need to establish notability. Paradoctor (talk) 18:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- I note that the PROD was concerned that Graffiti in Houston is not significant enough for an article, aka non-notable. The concern was not that the current article is "short", as
youwas claimed inyourthe revert}}. Paradoctor (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC); edited 21:00, 10 May 2025 (UTC)- Not sure what you mean by "your revert". I am not User:StarTrekker. I agree, the sources belong in the article, but we'll have to disagree re: notability. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:55, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're right. Sorry about the mixup. Fixed now. Paradoctor (talk) 21:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by "your revert". I am not User:StarTrekker. I agree, the sources belong in the article, but we'll have to disagree re: notability. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:55, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts and Texas. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:15, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I believe this does pass GNG. These articles cover the scene, culture and history of graffiti in Houston: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. The city is also home to a graffiti park which has gotten coverage as well as the The Graffiti and Street Art Museum of Texas.★Trekker (talk) 22:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - The bulk of this is written from the point of view of the artistic display of graffiti. If that's how it's meant to be, perhaps the title of the article should be changed to reflect that. I left a little paragraph in the graffiti removal section that reflects the bad side of graffiti. It would be a helpful balance if it also indicated the annual taxpayer cost of Houston removing the graffiti. — Maile (talk) 22:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Maile66 I agree and would welcome more info re: removal efforts. For what it's worth, I'm just adding content as I come across sources, without preference to artistic vs. removal and "bad side". I've also worked on similar articles for other U.S. cities, some of which are the opposite and are more focused on removal efforts than art. Thanks for contributing to the article!, which I hope will continue to be expanded. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:08, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - This is a good-faith Keep. You work the same way I do at times. — Maile (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Visual arts - Proposed deletions
- Dallas Contemporary (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)