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The result was delete. Guerillero Parlez Moi 07:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Brian Hansen (pornographic actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It doesn't seem like this one meets WP:GNG. The references are not SIGCOV and most of them don't seem like reliable sources. BuySomeApples (talk) 10:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Doesn't look like the sources are significant coverage, and while I don't know if this recreated version is significantly different from the previously deleted version, it seems that the previous deletion nomination closed with the same finding and it is unlikely that much changed. silviaASH (inquire within) 12:16, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Following sources seem to be coverage significant enough, considering he has been featured in DNA magazine and made headlines in AVN and XBIZ:
- Bright, Richard (2006-08-17). "Porn Star Q&A: Brian Hansen". AVN.
- "Meet Brian Hansen". Fleshbot. 2006-04-25.
- "COLT Launches Buckshot Man Brian Hansen's Fan Site". XBIZ. 2007-02-06
- "BRIAN HANSEN The life and times and pajamas of porn's latest superstar". DNA. No. 81. January 2006.
- "Brian Hansen's Grabby Snatch". DNA Magazine #90. July 2007. p. 10. Retrieved 2025-04-20 – via Scribd.
- Rice, G. Zisk (2010-01-08). "Buckshot Man Brian Hansen Returns in 'Lotus'". AVN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkavirya (talk • contribs) 12:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- A cleanup could be done of unreliable sources, instead of deleting the entire article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkavirya (talk • contribs) 13:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Keep The sources are too efficient (AVN) to justify keeping the article Iban14mxl (talk) 02:03, 27 April 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:17, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can we get a source eval?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 10:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC) - Keep, passes SIGCOV Madeline1805 (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NACTOR. Needs coverage in more independent sources than AVN and DNA. LibStar (talk) 13:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 06:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Delete. The are all either not RS or not SIGCOV. Furthermore, the article is quite vague (e.g. "his parents were from two different continents") and certainly does not read as an encyclopaedic article. Overall, I'd say it could be saved if it wasn't for the questionable reliability of the sources, and the fact those are the best that seem to be available. JacobTheRox (talk) 06:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I believe there should be some coverage outside media only focused on the adult industry. That still leaves plenty of notable porn actors. gidonb (talk) 05:02, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete There should be more outside coverage for notability than those focused on the industry. It does not help that this article was already nominated before and the result as delete too. Ramos1990 (talk) 04:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Goldsztajn (talk) 23:43, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Stefan Pop (Dutch comedian) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The sourcing here is at best dubious: some theatrical database, a club and a festival. The subject is likely associated with all three; all three are promotional blurbs. Independent coverage is glaringly absent. — Biruitorul Talk 18:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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- This is the ugly side of Wikipedia. The sources used are qualitative in nature. But to satisfy you I have used a few more sources from the largest newspapers in the Netherlands. I also do not appreciate that you insinuate that I am in any way connected to Stefan Pop. Coriovallum (talk) 18:34, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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- There are quite a lot of articles available, but they are mostly connected to the recent sketch and a recent incident in Lubach. But there is for example this interview, which signals some notability. Dajasj (talk) 08:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. No lack of sources whatsoever to satisfy the GNG. Nomination was focused on references (even though it uses the term "sourcing") in clear defiance of NEXIST. Also please rename to Stefan Pop, with the Romanian tenor at Ștefan Pop. No disambiguation page and dabs needed for just two people with names spelled differently. gidonb (talk) 13:27, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources 4 and 6 are about this individual and his sketch about Zelensky, with the rest we should have enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ExitMundi.nl (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Apparently defunct website. After a prod almost twenty years ago, a bit of uncited and unsourced content was slapped on carelessly, with some evidence of COI or at least NPOV violation. I am inclined to say that notability was never established. Orange Mike | Talk 19:11, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep -- somewhat confused by this nomination: four reliable news sources are cited, even though one is a 404. That establishes clear notability by the GNG -- it is irrelevant whether the website is now defunct. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- I oppose deletion, but I actually think it would be best if this would be part of an article about Maarten Keulemans (which is now a redirect). Maarten Keulemans has become sufficiently notable since the article about ExitMundi.nl was written. Dajasj (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as FRINGE failing the GNG. Maybe Maarten Keulemans passes the GNG. He had the stories of this website bundled into a book, regardless won a prize, and did other stuff. I can't say for sure until I see it. gidonb (talk) 21:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- This is not FRINGE in the Wikipedia sense, which warns against undue weight in articles not about the "fringe" topic – there can't be undue weight on the subject of the article. Also, as far as I can tell, this site/book/project was supposed to be art or entertainment, not a genuine doomsday cult. Toadspike [Talk] 14:06, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:16, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Well, the text in sources 2 and 3 is about as long as the text of the nomination above, both brief. The other two don't open, so that's no help. The website is mentioned twice in trivial mentions in Gbooks, this for example [1]. We don't have anything extensive, I don't think these are enough to use for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 00:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- One of the last snapshots was in 2023 from the Wayback Machine [2], I'm not even sure we'd consider it a reliable source RS for use here, not sure how that affects notability, but it would be classified as a blog today. Oaktree b (talk) 00:46, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Reopening and relisting AfD per request from User:Toadspike,
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:59, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. This review [3] is sigcov of a reading of this work by a German performer. Similar reviews here [4] and an article from the same paper (Der Bund) around the same time titled "Weltuntergangsschlagzeuger Bela B." by Gisela Feuz that I can't find online, but is in my newspaper database. This source [5] seems to have a paragraph of analysis of this subject at the end. There is a little bit in [6]. I'm not 100% certain here, but the coverage of this subject's various iterations (website, book, live performance) seem to add up to meet the GNG. If we don't keep this, I suggest redirecting to Bela B., where the subject is mentioned under "Acting and other ventures". Toadspike [Talk] 19:06, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Toadspike. Obscure and odd but seemingly notable website. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above analysis by Toadspike and with that, WP:N met. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 02:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm not really convinced by the sources in Toadspike's comment so much as their context. This isn't just a website; it also became a book, which has been translated into at least one other language, and a performance piece, which itself received reviews. The "work", as a whole, appears surely notable. I would prefer to redirect/merge this to the author's article, given that the sourcing we've found so far is pretty slim, but since that doesn't exist (yet), I'll have to !vote keep. -- asilvering (talk) 02:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus is to keep the content, with no prejudice against further discussion to merge the content into another article. Mojo Hand (talk) 14:05, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Radio in the Flemish Community (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 09:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
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- This type of article is very common. To link a few: Radio in France, Radio in Germany, Radio in Austria and Radio in the Republic of Ireland. Concerning the notability of the Flemish Community: since Belgium is roughly split into two language regions, each region has its own set of radio stations. AllOriginalBubs (talk) 15:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- AllOriginalBubs, the examples are from primary level national units. Do you claim that this level should be skipped in Belgium? gidonb (talk) 03:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Mass media in Belgium#Radio as an ATD for an unjustified spinoff. Not sure that any of the information is missing there yet access and history would be preserved. gidonb (talk) 09:47, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep A quick search of Google Books shows the following English-language sources: Who Owns the World's Media? Media Concentration and Ownership Around the World (Oxford University Press) [7], pages 42-43; Media Compass: A Companion to International Media Landscapes (Wiley) [8], pages 22-23; The Media in Europe: The Euromedia Handbook (SAGE Publications) [9], pages 21-23. I'm sure there's more, in English and in other languages. If there were an article on Radio in Belgium, equivalent to Television in Belgium, it might be appropriate to merge this article there - but I don't think that merging or redirecting to Mass media in Belgium, which covers radio, tv, press, would be appropriate. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:33, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:12, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I found some sources. General history: Publieke televisie in Vlaanderen p23-26 are only about the radio. Non public local radio: Regionale media in Vlaanderen: een doorlichting p.137-165; influence of the radio on dialect: Dialectverlies of dialectrevival?: actueel taalgedrag in Vlaanderen p.116; Radioplays: Translation and the Transnational Dynamics of the Radio Play in the Low Countries; I will place these and other sources on the talk page.
The books mostly cover radio together with television (because in the past the broadcasters were the same) so a merge of radio and television could be possible. The journal articles do seem to cover them separately. I advocate for keeping them separate because the commercial radio stations aren't involved in television in most cases, a book has more place to cover things than a wikipage and because it is a different medium. Merging to a radio in Belgium article is also possible, but the sources do focus more on Flanders separately.Rolluik (talk) 16:44, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Belgium is an unusual case in that its media, like many other things there, is bifurcated by language. Because of that, the structure of a "Radio in X" article would be very bifurcated to the point of being two articles, one of which would be this. A Radio in Wallonia article should be the next step. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 07:29, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- It would be better to have a Radio in the French Community of Belgium (This also covers Brussels). A Radio in the German-speaking Community of Belgium is also possible but maybe the population is too low to have generated enough sources, in that case a section Media in German-speaking Community of Belgium could suffice. Rolluik (talk) 09:26, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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