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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Davyd Venken

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only found sources in darts related press. LibStar (talk) 18:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per above.Canary757 (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can't find coverage that can clarify his notoriety. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Toadspike [Talk] 11:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Ross (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This from Stuff is clear sigcov. Further coverage from the Dominion Post and again in same indicate he's of at least regional notability. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. As above from Ser!, there is significant coverage in local media, and I have edited the article to include these references plus one other I found. Ewhite31 (talk) 10:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, appears SPORTBASIC is met.Canary757 (talk) 18:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Reed

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no SIGCOV found.Canary757 (talk) 11:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Thomas (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no SIGCOV found, couple of interviews on blogspot/wordpress was all that I found so failing WP:Sportbasic.Canary757 (talk) 18:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edwin Max

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I can't find anything for him bar a minor mention.Canary757 (talk) 16:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unreferenced and doesn't appear to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 10:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rohit David

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:23, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Nothing in Google news. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 17:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No Significant coverage found.Canary757 (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Agree as per above MaskedSinger (talk) 16:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Robinson (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 15:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a few lines in theboltonnews re competition win vs Dudbridge but no significant coverage.Canary757 (talk) 19:12, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rhys Hayden

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:19, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Has not won any tournament. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A google search for Rhys Hayden birmingham open shows he won it in september this year (dartsplanet.tv) but it looks fairly minor and I couldn't find anything else to help.Canary757 (talk) 18:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert MacKenzie (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Notability not established. Coldupnorth (talk) 17:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unreferenced. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Beeblebrox ^Beebletalks 01:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pál Székely

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Another one who looks notable in Hungary. Found this [1] in Magyar Nemzet, This [2] [] in Nemzeti Sport. In Blikk newspaper there is is this [3] I've only looked at a few Hungarian papers so there may be a lot more. Any thoughts?Canary757 (talk) 07:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep per above sources identified by Canary757. That Magyar Nemzet article is a brilliant example of sigcov (and even has other outlets reporting on parts of it). Further coverage can be found in Index.hu, M4sport.hu, 24.hu, further coverage in Index.hu, HVG.hu and Origo.hu. Trouble is that googling "Pal Székely" rarely returns any coverage because of Hungarian naming customs which put the name as "Székely Pal", but googling the latter or "Székely Penge" finds some very strong coverage indicating he's nationally notable in Hungary. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 09:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Nemzet article has only a paragraph of coverage; the rest is interview quotes which do not count towards GNG as primary and non-independent. The first three other sources also appear to be just Q&A interviews. Can you find some non-interview coverage of him? JoelleJay (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious about the status of interviews; when I check GNG, the reference to secondary sources is that they need "at least one secondary source" (which in this situation would be the latter Index article) and then says sources "should" be secondary. Then when I check WP:PRIMARY it says "(depending on context) interviews", which links me to WP:Reliable_sources#News organizations, in which there is... nothing listed about the aforementioned interviews. Is the inference here that any sort of interview content, regardless of how widespread or what source it's in, is entirely worthless and bunk in determining notability? ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The general consensus has been that secondary content from the interviewer, e.g. background on the interviewee prepared before the interview, can count towards GNG if it's SIGCOV, but anything coming from the interviewee (either directly in quotes or lightly paraphrased by the interviewer) is not independent or secondary. I'd say the Index article is verging on a routine recap (personally I would classify it as fully routine, as it's just briefly reporting his performance in one tournament). JoelleJay (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks for the clarification. Well, I'm finding it hard, owing to my lack of Hungarian (I'm presuming there may be more hidden mentions such as the "Székely Palnak" ones that wouldn't initially come up on search) to find further sources. I'll just hope that whoever closes this will note the various Hungarian national sporting outlets that've gone to the bother of interviewing the subject in detail; even if not counted in the rule-based notability check, it's at least some sort of background showing this isn't just some complete unnotable. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Will give a more expanded response when I have more time but German website dartn.de [4] which has a nice bio about him describes him as one of the most famous players in Eastern Europe (via google translate).Canary757 (talk) 07:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Despite his work, a search yields significant independent coverage and has encyclopedic support. Tgvarrt (talk) 23:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

János Végső

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Relist~~ I think this one warrants more investigation. Significant coverage in the Hungarian Sports newspaper Nemzeti Sport such as [5] and [6]. Also some here on Blikk website.[7] A google search for his name and nemzeti sport shows multiple strong hits so may well be notable in Hungary. Canary757 (talk) 07:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above coverage (though the Nemzeti Sport links seem to be the same one), with even more coverage available in Hungarian language websites - Hatharom, Nemzeti Sport and interviewed in part in Bunteto. Interestingly, Nemzeti Sport in an article specifies that there was "another final success, but not from János"... that's gotta be at least some sign of notability that they've gotta specifically mention it wasn't him, right? Anyway, further research would benefit from using the Hungarian-language versions of his name - either "Végső János" or "Végső Jánosnak". ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:07, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Good extra source addedCanary757 (talk) 13:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:21, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Stoyke

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This definitely seems like WP:SIGCOV, meeting WP:SPORTCRIT at least. JTtheOG (talk) 00:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. JTtheOG has found a good source here. Additional coverage available in ~~Bild~~, Ostfriesen Zeitung, and Nordwest Zeitung. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BILD rules that one out. The OZ articles are freely inaccessible but the NZ article is purely routine. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, TIL. I'll strike the Bild article accordingly. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tapani Uitos

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete All Google news yields is 3 darts related sources. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Searching the Helsingin Sanomat archives returns a pair of short mentions, nothing substantial. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 08:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Stephenson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - there's some coverage that appears to indicate Stephenson is at least regionally notable, like this from the Newcastle Chronicle, and this in same, as well as coverage in Malvern Gazette of his business ventures outside of the sport, but it's nothing incredible. I do think WP:3SOURCES is met, just about. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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