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File:ACVM Eagle.jpg + 5 others

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The result of the discussion was: delete. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:56, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:ACVM Eagle.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Fight Against Terrorism.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Vietnam War.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Korean War.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:World War II.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:World War I.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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File:Enola Gay.gif

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Enola Gay.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
Also it was taken before 1948 so may well be free for that reason?
This is a notable image of obvious public interest.
There are already several [Gay] images on Commons under licenses like {{PD-USGov-Military-Air_Force}}, not clear why this one isn't among them.
Perhaps all the image needs is the correct tag? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's a drawing from a website, and presumably not a government work. —innotata 02:10, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Filaret and volodymyr.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Filaret and volodymyr.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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File:File-Inventory Manager.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:File-Inventory Manager.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).
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File:Symbolz.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Symbolz.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Could be ineligible for copyright (it seems to complex to me, but I don't know), but source says it is all rights reserved, and the given copyright status (Open Government Licence) could not apply. —innotata 01:03, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:PSP Crest1.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Theta Delta Chi Educational Foundation logo.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kapkeycolour.png

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The result of the discussion was: changed to non-free. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:58, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The Spectrum and Stadiums.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Spectrum and Stadiums.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Has a US government tag, but the source is listed as DigitalImageServices.com, which is a commercial enterprise that restores photos. No information about the original source of the image is provided. Therefore I am unable to verify that the source of the image is actually US government and therefore public domain, thus the possibility exists that this image is actually not free. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This image (which does not have a U.S. Government tag but a "PD-Pre1978" tag) has now been replaced in the article in which it was used by a better and well sourced free image. Centpacrr (talk) 20:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:US Pacific Railroads 1887.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. User has been advised of ambiguities in the description, and these ambiguities have now been rectified, and the image has been moved to Commons. SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:US Pacific Railroads 1887.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Considering that this is a composite of three images that was produced by a commercial enterprise, it may be the case that a new copyright was created, and DigitalImageServices.com may be the holder of that copyright. No evidence that the uploader has the right to upload what may be DigitalImageServices.com's copyrighted image. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I (the uploader) am DigitalImageServices.com. If you had looked at either the file's summary or the introductory paragraph of my userpage you would have known that as it is stated plainly in both locations, to-wit: "Many of the images I contribute come from my various postal history and railroadiana collections (The Cooper Collections) as well as original digital images that I have created on those and a variety of subjects as the sole owner and operator of DigitalImageServices.com." Centpacrr (talk) 05:00, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Then you need to be FAR more explicit about that connection, on the file description page. A reasonable person is not going to naturally venture over to your userpage to find this connection. I would never have thought to look there for information that makes that connection between A and B. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    It is stated on the file's page in the summary where DigitalImageServices.com is identified as the uploader. "(Scanning, digital reconstruction, compositing, and restoration by DigitalImageServices.com (uploader))" Centpacrr (talk) 07:13, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    It may be wise to just say "This is my own work" rather than spamming out your company name in that case. As you have seen, it was ambiguous as to how much of this was actually your work. SchuminWeb (Talk) 13:09, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To date you are the only person who has ever expressed any confusion about this matter. Now that you do understand this image's copyright status, however, it's time for you to withdraw this listing.
I also utterly reject your new charge of "spamming" just as I do your previous unsupported and reckless accusations against me of "vandalism" and "edit warring". Unless based on demonstrable and verifiable evidence, this is an unacceptable behavior (and is beginning to constitute harassment), especially for a WP administrator who has been entrusted by the community with the responsibility to help manage the project with fairness and objectivity. In your own word, "Understood?" Centpacrr (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now you have been advised that it is ambiguous, you should make your authorship/ownership more clear in the future. I have clarified the description and moved it to Commons. SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:21, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Rho Pi Phi.gif

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rho Pi Phi.gif (delete | talk | history | logs).
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File:Annanksmgrks.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Annanksmgrks.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Per this article (K. Subramaniam), one of the subjects died in 1971, and was only active up until 1957. Now judging by the fact that a) the uploader was born in 1978 (per this) and b) is serial copyright violator, it is, IMHO, likely that the uploader is not the copyright holder of this work, and nor does he have the authority to release it into the public domain. Part of this CCI. Acather96 (talk) 19:42, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to note here that User:Kumarrajendran is M. G. Ramachandran's grandson and it is very likely that these are part of a family collection. The issue had come up earlier (please refer here and here). Unfortunately the user (nor I) are active and I would recommend this to be considered before deletion. --Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 13:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Sivmgrt.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sivmgrt.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • * Per this article (M. G. Ramachandran), one of the subjects died in 1987. Now judging by the fact that a) the uploader was born in 1978 (per this) and b) is serial copyright violator, it is, IMHO, likely that the uploader is not the creator of this work. Claimed to be from his grandfather's personal collection, does the uploader have the authority to claim to be the copyright holder and release the work into the public domain? Part of this CCI. Acather96 (talk) 19:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Sridevimgr.JPG

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MGnsa.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:MGnsa.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • No evidence to show the uploader is the copyright holder of this file, orphaned, serial copyright violator. Part of [Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Kumarrajendran Acather96 (talk) 20:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Höss, Rudolf.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Höss, Rudolf.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • The subject is shown in what appears to be prison garb. This suggests that the photo was taken following World War II and prior to the subject's execution in 1947. From this we must infer that the photo is less than 70 years old, having been taken sometime around 1945-1947. Pburka (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is part of a much larger problem with User:Hoops gza seemingly uploading images with knowingly false or incorrect image tags. This user has experienced a string of problems with Wikipedia policies, with the user seemingly acting as they please and (so far) has gotten away with it. I have asked several times for an administrator to review this situation - we have a user who is uploading possibly copyrighted images and then using fraudulent image licensing tags to escape detection and deletion. Why this has been allowed to continue for so long is very baffling. -OberRanks (talk) 20:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The source actually says "Krakow, Poland, Postwar, Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Höß, the commandent of Auschwitz, in prison. Belongs to collection: Yad Vashem Photo Archive." It could be out of copyright if it was published in Poland without copyright notice before 1994, but there's no reason to think it's public domain from the information given. —innotata 21:40, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem for Wikipedia may be that per [1] it is possible this image was not published (in the definition of US copyright law) until 2008, which would be problematic in terms of US copyright. Safer to assume it is not pd, seems likely that this image could be used under a claim of fair use in the article on the individual shown, but not the list article or in userspace.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What matters is that it could be public domain (in the U.S. too): if it was published in Poland before 1994 without a copyright notice (I'd guess this is likely, the notice would need to be directly attached to the image itself it seems), but there's nothing to suggest it is, so with the current information it should be deleted. With this information, the activities of the editor are not enough to mean it should be deleted, and it may well be possible to find information on the provenance of the image. —innotata 02:08, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it is unlikely to have been published in Poland (although I can't guarantee it, obviously) - I refer you again to the link I provided to vadvashem.org, which the uploader did reference as where he found it. Yadvashem holds an archive of historical photographs, most of which have not been published prior to publication on the organisation's website. I believe Yadvashem have presented everything known about the photograph, which is likely to have been taken by one of Hoss's gaolers, or a Soviet official, as it would have been the Russians who had him in jail at the time. I do think this is probably enough provenance - the 70 year tag should be removed, but I don't think it is a deliberate attempt at copyvio. Elen of the Roads (talk) 02:20, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Buckfast Label.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Clearly a non-free derivative, and re-tagged as such. Will be removed from all non-articlespace, which will leave it orphaned. Black Kite (t) 23:13, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Cmpnair.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kottacherry.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:FISHXORZ.png

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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