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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.
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Information on the process
[edit]What may be nominated for deletion here:
- Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS: (in the unlikely event it ever contains a page that is not a redirect or one of the 7 disambiguation pages), Event: and the various Talk: namespaces
- Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
- Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.
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Please familiarize yourself with the following policies
[edit]- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus
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Archived discussions
[edit]A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.
Current discussions
[edit]- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
July 18, 2025
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. The nominator clearly meant to open a discussion about the article (at WP:AFD), not open an MfD discussion about the talk page. Speedy keeping this—they're more than welcome to open a deletion discussion in the correct venue. —Tom Morris (talk) 13:26, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
No reputable external references/sources at all. Wikirapguru (talk) 13:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. The nominator clearly meant to open a discussion about the article (at WP:AFD), not open an MfD discussion about the talk page. Speedy keeping this—they're more than welcome to open a deletion discussion in the correct venue. (Same issue at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Hype (magazine).) —Tom Morris (talk) 13:32, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
No references can be found, only 1 external link exists, website of a "magazine" contains a blank template/placeholder page only. Wikirapguru (talk) 12:59, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
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July 15, 2025
[edit]Per WP:COPIES and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ComparePages?page1=User%3ATheFIRSTHistorian%2Fsandbox&rev1=719996038&page2=FIRST+Res-Q&rev2=719998052 Paradoctor (talk) 19:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retract per Robert. Paradoctor (talk) 01:00, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to FIRST Res-Q. This is not actually a copy of a mainspace article. The mainspace article is a copy of this sandbox. Whether the mainspace article has any independent sources and so passes general notability is another question, but this MFD is about this sandbox, not the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops. You're right. Should've seen that. Paradoctor (talk) 00:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I have nominated the mainspace article for deletion because it has no independent sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
July 13, 2025
[edit]Project that was recently "revived" for no reason. Single musicians almost never need a stand-alone project and even task forces would seem excessive for most cases. Gonnym (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Mark as defunct as per the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide. No need to delete when there is a procedure for marking projects as defunct. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – This is a working draft project that aims to assist in organizing the improvement of Nicki Minaj-related articles, many of which are GA-class or part of a larger topic group. Even as a user-driven or draft project, it adds significant value. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 00:09, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Latin music (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Recently created project with no prior discussion anywhere. This can be handled directly by WP:WikiProject Women in Music. If deleted, please delete related categories and templates. Gonnym (talk) 14:02, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment- I am the original editor for this Wikiproject. It is now an in-progress draft, not an active project page, and was purposefully placed in draft mode while being created. The ultimate goal is to establish a task force under Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Music and Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin music to address a specific systemic content gap: the underrepresentation of women in Latin music genres like reggaetón, salsa, bachata, cumbia, ranchera, and others. This is distinct from the broader Women in Music project since cultural, regional, and genre-specific coverage difficulties in Latin music are not satisfactorily handled elsewhere. The wikiproject is not yet marketed or used as an official project; it is still in development. I respectfully ask that the page be retained in draft mode to enable future development and collaboration with relevant WikiProjects. I welcome feedback and debate as it develops. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 20:08, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - This project, as noted by its originator, is in a draft status. I will vote Keep unless a reason is provided why it should not be discussed while in draft status. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:07, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- It really isn't a draft. Sunrise has created dozens of categories and templates which will require cleaning up after them. A draft is only a project page and a talk page. But even that comes after a proposal to see if you have a group of editors. Sticking a draft template does not make it a draft. Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - This project does not have a project talk page. The activity of a WikiProject takes place on the project talk page. A talk page should be created with at least a project talk page header. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, undiscussed WikiProjecr created out of process. We already have WikiProject Women and WikiProject Latin music - why do we need a separate project for the intersection of these interests? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:19, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Strong Keep – This is not a redundant or unnecessary project. While Wikipedia:WikiProject Women and Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin music exist, this project focuses specifically on the intersection of gender and genre: women in Latin music. Just as we have Women in hip hop, this WikiProject supports the improvement of content related to Latina artists, producers, composers, and contributors in a genre often dominated by men. Intersectional identities often go underrepresented in generalist projects, and this project helps correct systemic content gaps in coverage, sourcing, and notability. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 12:51, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment If nothing else, I'd say this project can be converted into a taskforce for the Latin music project if this project doesn't go through. Erick (talk) 15:55, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
I am not sure if we need two different Event Sandboxes. Putting it here in case someone disagrees. Wikipedian Talk to me! or not… 10:18, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Speedy Delete as G2. I am not sure that we need an Event namespace, but that is not for MFD to decide. We can delete this as a test edit. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:48, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Robert McClenon as a small aside, now that any namespace can be used for creating events, there's an argument to make for moving it to Wikipedia namespace, so that existing events at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC and others can make use of the meta:Event Center/Registration ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Robert McClenon. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 22:07, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as creator. No concerns from my side. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:27, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Creator is fine with deletion --Lenticel (talk) 00:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Clear Self Promotion Pencilceaser123 (talk) 06:47, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Speedy delete per WP:G11 88.97.192.42 (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2025 (UTC)- Keep per Rhododendrites 88.97.192.42 (talk) 17:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Speedy Delete as U5 or G11. User is only here to advertise. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:39, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - Huh?? The entirety of the article is basically "I contributed to an article, here's how I contributed, I welcome other people's help." In what world is that promotion, or unlike anyone else's user page in this discussion? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. There's an older version, and there's missing context: in adding to the Pindi Saidpur article, he also mentioned himself. I wouldn't say the previous version -- a two-line introduction to who they are -- is G11 or U5 worthy, but in any event that version has been replaced now. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:07, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep.
- As the page is no longer self promotion I do not believe this should be deleted now. Pencilceaser123 (talk) 00:01, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep revised version is better and more collaborative in tone. --Lenticel (talk) 03:37, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
July 12, 2025
[edit]WP:NOTWEBHOST. BD2412 T 20:21, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move to
Draft:Fourte!User:Gbgblade/Fourte. It appears that this is a copy of an article by the user that has been deleted under A7 in mainspace. This user is new, and I don't see any evidence as yet that they are not acting in good faith, but this user page is not the proper location for them to have this. They should have placed it in draftspace, where it could go through the appropriate AFC processes. silviaASH (inquire within) 20:39, 12 July 2025 (UTC)- It looks fifteen years old to me. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:15, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I see that now. I was not paying attention to the date. Yeah, move it there instead. silviaASH (inquire within) 00:22, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- It looks fifteen years old to me. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:15, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Move to User:Gbgblade/Fourte, and blank with {{userpage blanked}}.
- It was a reasonable draft, users should not be forced to use draftspace, and blanking is fine for old userpages. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:14, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and don't move as irrelevant noise and an improper process circumvention attempt. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Old business
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July 5, 2025
[edit]Wikipedia is not an alt history site. Would be a U5 except they have too many edits outside userspace. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:54, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - It is hard to determine whether this is a hoax or whether this is crystal balling. It is not hard to determine that this is misusing the pictures of living persons, and so is a biographies of living persons violation. Biographies of living persons policy should apply to any use of their name, image, and likeness. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- This search is a good way to find alternate history sandboxes. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Robert McClenon. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 09:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Maybe the above comments were about a previous revision of the page. I see a sandbox where someone is playing around with infoboxes, seeing how they work. If there are policy violations, editing the page to remove them should be sufficient; I just edited the page to fix nonexistent templates, per the guideline at WP:REDNOT. Deletion seems extreme. I put stuff like this in my sandbox pages all the time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:33, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- The current version is still inappropriate alt history IMO. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:21, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Blank per AaronHot123's comment on his talk page ("Would removing the content on the sandbox page be enough?"). I do see this as closer to NOTWEBHOST than to reasonable experimentation, especially since it's 90% of his edits, but I think blanking would be adequate. A talk-page note probably would have been preferable to MfD in this instance, in my opinion. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
June 30, 2025
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Yelps ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ critique me 08:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- User talk:Jsonantenor (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Star Mississippi 01:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
Nothing but unencyclopedic ramblings from the user (mostly in Filipino) and one random unintelligible comment from an IP who may be the same person or an offline acquaintance. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy keep: Per WP:DELTALK. silviaASH (inquire within) 08:59, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Blank the talk page with the exception of the block notice per Skynxnex and Cremastra. silviaASH (inquire within) 21:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - No benefit has been shown to deletion. We don't get rid of junk in non-article space except for reasons. No harm is shown to keeping. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Irrelevant noise. WP:DELTALK doesn't apply here since this doesn't consist of comments by other users. Probably not worth bringing to MfD but might as well delete it since we're here. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Pppery. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 21:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think speedily deleting talk pages that contain zero talk page content can fall under speedy deletion criteria. But since there's a block notice, the deletion process needs to at least bring that back. So, probably weak delete in an ideal world but understand that's unlikely. If not deleted, blank/revdel(?) the noise. Skynxnex (talk) 15:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see the value of deleting and thus removing the block notice; just remove everything above that and we'll be fine. Cremastra (talk) 20:26, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per silviaASH. Partial blank if desired. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've boldly gone and removed everything above the MfD and block notices. If it was not appropriate to do so, I won't object to being reverted. silviaASH (inquire within) 07:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Reasonable way to handle things, considering a WP:CSD#U5 argument could be made for everything else on the page: "writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals, where the owner has made few or no edits outside of user pages" — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 19:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've boldly gone and removed everything above the MfD and block notices. If it was not appropriate to do so, I won't object to being reverted. silviaASH (inquire within) 07:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep since everything's now been removed except the block/MfD notices. No need for revdel; if anything it's useful to keep the nonsense in the history so people can determine why the user was blocked. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
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June 27, 2025
[edit]- Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Nickelodeon task force/Nicktoons task force (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Left guide (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
An overly specific task force created by one participant in 2013, which has never been active since then, i.e. it never really worked as a task force. The only participant is placeholder. Solidest (talk) 18:27, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Mark Historical - This task force had limited activity on its talk page. The talk page was then blanked and redirected to the parent task force. Revert the redirection. There was no need to hide the history, and redirecting a talk page is the wrong way to delete a dead task force. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:39, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: What do others think of the "mark historical" suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2025 (UTC) - [1] All activity seems to be automatic messaging rather than something meaningful. Solidest (talk) 01:09, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: soft delete * Pppery * it has begun... 16:36, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Shannara task force/User Shannara task force (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:41, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Unused userbox for defunct taskforce Solidest (talk) 17:19, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Was it ever used? It is annoying to find deleted Userboxes in Userpage histories. SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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