Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 May 27

May 27

File:Joseph D. Ward.png

Massachusetts government works are public domain, so it may be safe to treat this as PD. Jay Cubby 00:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

relabel as PD per nom. Buffs (talk) 16:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Camp belknap.jpg

Per c:COM:FOP US, freedom of panorama only extends to buildings. There is no evidence to suggest that the text, which is dated 1996, is freely licensed. As c:COM:CB#Noticeboards and signs states, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs [...] are almost always copyright-protected". ✗plicit 06:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not PD and replaceable by text. Buffs (talk) 16:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gangster logo.jpg

Uploaded for Portal:Gangs, no other use. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 10:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mild keep in-use on user page. Buffs (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Westdene (Johannesburg) street art 2019.jpg

Derivative work. Sreejith K (talk) 20:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I noticed the file has been marked for discussion as a possible derivative work.

The photograph was taken by me on 20 April 2019 at 10 Monmouth Road, Westdene, Johannesburg, South Africa and shows a piece of public street art that was permanently installed in a public place.
My understanding, per COM:FOP (freedom of panorama) and COM:DW (derivative works), is that where freedom-of-panorama applies the photograph is permissible provided it is my own original capture and the artwork is lawfully visible from a public space.
Could you please indicate which specific policy concern triggered the tag? If there is a jurisdictional issue (e.g. FOP does not cover public art in the Republic of South Africa) I am happy to supply additional information or adjust the licence as required.

Until then, I believe your “derivative work” notice is in error. I would appreciate you withdrawing this, or, if there is a genuine copyright issue, a clear explanation so I can address it promptly. Setzor (talk) 20:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:FOP applies to English Wikipedia, not c:COM:FOP. Photographs of two-dimensional works like murals are treated as non-free images. hinnk (talk) 00:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed COM:FOP and accept that the mural falls outside US FoP. Happy for the file to be deleted, thanks for feedback. Setzor (talk) 04:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All parties agree on deletion after discussion & better understanding of FOP/Derivatives. Buffs (talk) 16:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Wall mural in Westdene, Johannesburg (2016).png

Derivative work Sreejith K (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again.

You have now placed a second “derivative work” tag on a photograph that I personally took. I need to make the following absolutely clear:

Original authorship: I took both photographs myself. The RAW files and full EXIF data are available on request.
Freedom of panorama: The artwork is permanently installed in a public place in The Republic of South Africa, where FoP covers such imagery (see COM:FOP). No additional permission is required for a photo taken from a public vantage point.
Policy citations: You have not pointed to any specific clause in COM:DW or any other policy to justify your actions.

Tagging files without a policy basis creates needless work for patrollers and risks deleting perfectly valid content. This is disruptive under COM:POINT.

Next steps

If you believe there is a genuine copyright problem, please quote the precise policy passage and explain how it applies.
Otherwise, remove the tags from both files immediately.

If no substantive policy rationale is provided within seven days, I will request administrative closure of these discussions as unfounded.

Let’s put an end to this and keep Commons focused on genuine copyright issues.

Thank you. Setzor (talk) 20:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It would need to be free in the U.S., where freedom of panorama doesn't cover 2D art like murals. hinnk (talk) 01:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed COM:FOP and accept that the mural falls outside US FoP. Happy for the file to be deleted, thanks for feedback. Setzor (talk) 04:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All parties agree on deletion after discussion & better understanding of FOP/Derivatives. Buffs (talk) 16:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]