Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 April 3

April 3

File:Spider-Man MCU Film Series Logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This image uses {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}. The home country of Spider-Man is the US, so the license template is incorrectly used here. If the image is ineligible for copyright, then the image can and should be moved to commons. If the image is copyright and not free, then it should be deleted as orphaned. Gonnym (talk) 07:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not copyrightable; it's just text. Move to Commons. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Export to Commons per Infinite. This is a free file that is too original enough for copyright. Trailblazer101 (talk) 11:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move to commons Pretty sure this logo was made in the United States, so it should just be moved over. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and move to Commons "This file is believe to be non-free or possibly non-free in its home country", whom? Spider-Man is from the United States, which had higher threshold of originality (simple logos like this are ineligible for copyright there). So, we could simply move this file to Commons and restore deleted file. If necessary, SVG tag at Commons can be attached. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 05:05, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and move to Commons No brainer. Buffs (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Founders of the NAACP.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Free images are available for each of the founders. No need to use a non-free one Jay Cubby 12:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Cubby. Buffs (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Photo of Luigi Mangione taken by the Pennsylvania State Police in Altoona, PA.png

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The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗plicit 14:31, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable with c:File:Merged CCTV of suspect in Thompson's murder (cropped).jpg per WP:NFCC#1. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy close (and by speedy close, I mean the file should be speedily kept). The file is not replaceable with the CCTV picture as the OP claims. Police alleges that the person in the CCTV image(s) is Mangione, but it is not 100% confirmed to be him; it would be a BLP violation to add that image to the Luigi Mangione article, much less the infobox. As for the file, it had already undergone extensive discussion less than two months ago at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 January 17#File:Photo of Luigi Mangione taken by the Pennsylvania State Police in Altoona, PA.png, and there was no consensus to delete the image. Some1 (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
[I]t would be a BLP violation to add that image to the Luigi Mangione article, much less the infobox. Would it be a BLP violation to caption the CCTV image in the article generally (not necessarily the infobox) as something like "CCTV footage of a man believed to be Mangione"? JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 06:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even with words like "believed to be" or "suspected to be", there are implications and readers will be led to believe that Mangione is the one in the CCTV image since he's the one that was arrested. BLPs have much higher standards for inclusion; see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Back to your FFD statement, the fair use image is not replaceable with that CCTV image until it is 100% confirmed to be him in that image. For now, the person in the CCTV image is only alleged to be him by LE (or alleged to be the shooter, not necessarily Mangione himself, since the CCTV images were released before Mangione was arrested). Some1 (talk) 11:12, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy close per Some1. It is only alleged that the CCTV picture is Mangione. — Goszei (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't even know that's definitely him. And considering how many people get wrongly convicted of crimes based on unreliable evidence, let's not propagate what could be just that. 80.193.59.222 (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep It's generally better to use the mugshot, especially since we don't even know if the guy in the CCTV is actually him. Regardless, keep for now since Mangione is serving a life sentence, might even get a death sentence, and no confirmed free image of Mangione exists. AuroraANovaUma ^-^ (talk) 17:58, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reason to replace the following photo of Mr. Mangione due to this photo being the first time he was publicly seen, AND officially had confirmation that the currently selected photo is in fact him within the McDonald's. The other photo has yet to be confirmed as being Mr. Mangione, an you can't accurately see the features in the CCTV footage. I believe that photographs should be added to and not changed at all with the consideration in mind as well that this case will be used for future cases for many americans that hold constitutional violations. The original image is during the time of those violations because it leads you to later in the day he gets out of the police car with no shoes on. I believe that picture an information should be documented here as well. 24.224.52.68 (talk) 18:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is NOT acceptable not accurate. The image proposed is not confirmed to be the subject of this page. It would be liable to put the proposed new image. Pretty sure, wiki you would be opening yourself up to legal action. 2600:100E:A121:6618:EE87:8DD2:D9A9:201A (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone is wondering why a bunch of unregistered accounts have hopped onto this discussion all of a sudden, a link to it was posted on a subreddit dedicated to discussing Mangione and is gaining some traction. Just wanted to let people know; not trying to be bitey or anything. wizzito | say hello! 20:47, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was wondering why there appears to be an influx of IPs today, so your comment answered that. Explicit, since you were the one that closed the related discussion two months ago, do you think you could close this one too? No one has !voted to delete the file so far, and I don't think three more days of discussion would be any productive now that there are off-wiki canvassing concerns. Some1 (talk) 21:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If Wikipedia wants to remain a preeminent source of factual information – only known and confirmed photographs of the detainee should be used in connection to this case – given the serious nature of all possible outcomes. 192.234.91.20 (talk) 21:06, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Frankly the person from the CCTV image does not look at all like Luigi Mangione, therefore should not be used for his article. That person in that image has only been alleged to be him, so we cannot use it to replace an image that we know to be actually him. Hzh (talk) 22:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Using the proposed alternatives would create extremely obvious WP:BLPCRIME issues. hinnk (talk) 05:56, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Close/Keep per Some1. IzzySwag (talk) 16:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the only three states that treat CCTV and mugshots as public property are MA, CA, and FL. Even ignoring that he has the presumption of innocence, not a single photo that has been released since the shooting (suspect photos) and arrest (Luigi) is considered to be available for use under BLPCRIME. You either have to use a picture he himself posted on social media or allow the innocuous McDonald’s photo, which still allows him some presumption of innocence. Just keep it. 12.75.216.106 (talk) 21:29, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The New York Times, January 13, 2024.png

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. charlotte ^👸♥ 16:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fails NFCC1: there are countless front pages of the NYT which have since entered the public domain. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 21:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw: older images can project an antiquated view of the NYT. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 13:59, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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