Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 13
July 13
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The result of the discussion was: delete - no, "my neighbor sent it to me via e-mail and I decided to upload it" is not acceptable. Please read WP:IUP or ask me if you need further explanation of how copyright works. --B (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Catgif1.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by DJ WikiBob (notify | contribs).
- Likely a copyvio, listed source also leaves something to be desired. ÷seresin 05:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Um, I never copied it at all. My neighbor sent it to me via e-mail and I decided to upload it. P.S. I Rock Wikipedia! (talk) 21:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)DJ WikiBob[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by J Milburn (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Batboy's relationship with Obama is discussed incredibly briefly, and the "half brother" is not mentioned at all. This image is not needed, and does not improve the article in any meaningful way. J Milburn (talk) 11:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by MBisanz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:UK First leaflet.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by AndrewRT (notify | contribs).
- "The purpose of the leaflet in United Kingdom First Party is to illustrate the party's policies, and candidates as presented by them." The policies are already shown in the prose of the article, and images of candidates could easily be replaced with free media. This image is not required, as per non-free content criteria #1 and #8. J Milburn (talk) 16:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose I am the uploader of the picture. I appreciate that copyright law is complex, I am no expert and I may be unaware of the exact nuances. However, I have had a read through the policy and still think this complies with Wikipedia:Non-free content. Addressing the points raised by the nominator: This image is a copy of a promotional leaflet which includes photos of candidates, policies and other election information. Fair Use criterion #1 states that "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available". There is no free equivalent that includes everything that this includes. The fact that a small portion may theoretically be free-available elsewhere is not the same. As to #8 - significance - this is a small political party whose main activity so far has been the one election they stood in. Having the leaflet they sent out to roughly 2m households in a great addition to understanding the nature of the party - their professionalism, their image, their priorities etc. AndrewRT(Talk)(WMUK) 21:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You've misunderstood both points. Firstly, the image consists of a list of policies (clearly replaceable with text- we currently have a list of policies in the article) and images of candidates- all living people, all of them replaceable with free images. As such, there's not really anything irreplaceable unless you are illustrating the leaflet itself, for the sake of it being the leaflet that was circulated. This brings me to my next point- yes, I have little doubt that their participation in the election and their leafletting is important, and that it should be discussed in the article. However, what the leaflet looked like really is not important. If we're showing an image, it must be for the sake of the image itself. If the image itself does not add greatly to the article, then it should not be used. J Milburn (talk) 23:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose I am the uploader of the picture. I appreciate that copyright law is complex, I am no expert and I may be unaware of the exact nuances. However, I have had a read through the policy and still think this complies with Wikipedia:Non-free content. Addressing the points raised by the nominator: This image is a copy of a promotional leaflet which includes photos of candidates, policies and other election information. Fair Use criterion #1 states that "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available". There is no free equivalent that includes everything that this includes. The fact that a small portion may theoretically be free-available elsewhere is not the same. As to #8 - significance - this is a small political party whose main activity so far has been the one election they stood in. Having the leaflet they sent out to roughly 2m households in a great addition to understanding the nature of the party - their professionalism, their image, their priorities etc. AndrewRT(Talk)(WMUK) 21:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per J Milburn's excellent summary. Stifle (talk) 11:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by J Milburn (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Giuliani debate.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by William S. Saturn (notify | contribs).
- non-free image used to "show his reaction"....something I simply cannot see in the image. Does not significantly add to reader's understanding and so fails WP:NFCC#8 Peripitus (Talk) 22:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I simply disagree. I was also going to upload an image of Paul to place in the article directly above the image to show the readers the emotion of the two during the exchange. It shows how intense the debate was, and it's best to show that with images. --William S. Saturn (talk) 22:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I can't really see how it shows that. In any case, if the reaction is so important, why is it not discussed? Currently, we have a transcript along with an explanation of related events. Interesting reading, but I don't think "hmm, I wonder how Giuliani looked while that was said"? J Milburn (talk) 23:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Because I just started working on the article's rewrite, but I probably won't do any more with it because editors are causing too many problems for me, so it's just become a waste of time. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons, please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Apocalypse1.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Drnhawkins (notify | contribs).
- Image constitutes original research, as it is taking an existing text, in this case the Book of Revelation, and drawing conclusions based on it. Proposed for deletion after discussion here. Creator of the file is being notified of this discussion. John Carter (talk) 23:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 17:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Map of Indian Thrusts.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Noorkhanuk85 (notify | contribs).
- Unused- the majority of the user's other images have been nominated for deletion/deleted as copyvios/improperly licensed. J Milburn (talk) 23:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by B (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 17:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Iraqi soldiers cross No Mans Land during war.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Noorkhanuk85 (notify | contribs).
- Unused- the majority of the user's other images have been nominated for deletion/deleted as copyvios/improperly licensed. J Milburn (talk) 23:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by J Milburn (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- File:Rudy giuliani larry king.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by William S. Saturn (notify | contribs).
- What he looked like the moment he announced his candidacy is not important. Yes, the announcement is- for all means, discuss it in the article. However, this image is adding nothing. J Milburn (talk) 23:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is getting ridiculous. The announcement is very important. And a photo of that moment is important as well. Different candidates announce differently, and this adds significantly to the reader's understanding. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You'll note I actually expected you to say that. I know that the announcement is important, I realise his method of announcement is important- discuss it, by all means. However, there is no reason that a picture is needed to show what it looked like. Please review our non-free content criteria. J Milburn (talk) 23:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Honestly, I don't care anymore. Delete them both, I'm not working on that article anymore. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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