Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xenia Tchoumitcheva (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. No outstanding delete comments- the nominator has now !voted to keep the article, so, we're done here. Courcelles (talk) 12:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xenia Tchoumitcheva

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Despite trying, waiting, and trying again, I can find no reliable secondary sources commenting on this person. This article, like the many google hits, is essentially promotion, whether created and maintained by the subject, her agents or her fans. Information in this article, such as date of birth, cannot be reliably sourced. Even her name is disputed on the talk page. There is no content here that we should be publishing. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as article fails all criteria of WP:ENTERTAINER. Armbrust ^Talk _Contribs 16:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per subject meeting WP:BIO through WP:GNG.[1] Article could definitely benefit from contextual expansion and sourcing, and there are ways to address SPA interest that do not require a deletion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael, that was my early impression, but I cannot find any such source that is independent, and thus the GNG is not met. An independent source that contextualises is exactly what is needed, and is what I could not find. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With the greatest of respect, I agree with the conclusions of the last "Keep" AFD, as the G-news results show numerous non-English sources. If the articles are not PR, and address her directly and in detail in media sources accepted as RS, the GNG is met. And I sympathyze as all the articles will require translation... but non-English notability is perfectly fine with en.Wikipedia. For instance, following links from the subject's official website, these few are all articles about her, not blurbs or press releases, and all dealing with her woman directly and in detail: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] And these are just the tip of the iceberg, as a quick search through the news results gives: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] and many more from 2006 through 2010[28] Gosh knows, I dislike fighting through translations of French, German, and Italian.... I agree it would be a lot of work... but might you agree it could be done? That becomes the crux of the matter... her meeting of GNG even if no one has yet taken the time to properly improve an improvable article. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She seems to have enjoyed a lot of coverage in the media: [29] and [30]. It would make sense if someone looked this up and tried to fix the article. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 00:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Due to enough sources in other languages to establish notability. Christopher Connor (talk) 01:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It appears that the community has a positive view towards this article, and it is worth the not insignificant effort to find and translate sources. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.