Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viking Fusion

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Viking Fusion

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Subject fails Notability Guidelines Canyouhearmenow 19:25, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working on the page and the wiki format. Viking Fusion won an Emmy a few weeks ago, the reference has been fixed. We have various other cross-linked articles on Wikipedia that I am currently updating. We are the student-run multimedia website for Berry College. Wikipedia is an obvious medium for information on our site/organization to exist, and is also an excellent learning tool to integrate into our curriculum. I would greatly appreciate it if you do not delete this page or at least let me know how I can solve this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfett69 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest maybe a merge into an article about the college itself if there is one written on the college. The article for this subject does not have enough notability to maintain an article on its own per WP:Notability guidelines. I am open to hearing what other editors have to say. I am not opposed to a merge. --Canyouhearmenow 19:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the quick replies. Because our student site a separate entity from our college, a merger would not be possible I'm afraid. I am the site's online editor and only just began setting up this article and plan on expanding and adding many more references. We are very prominent in our area but I am still learning what all functions Wikipedia has open for us to utilize. How much time can an article spend marked for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfett69 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the article has already been nominated so it will go through the review as all other articles do. The problem that I see here is that the Viking Fusion does not have enough notability to maintain the article on its own validations. This is why I suggested that maybe we merge the article into the Berry College article since it is a part of that learning institution. I will wait to hear from other editors on their opinions. I would also tell you that you need to sign your replies with four tildes so that it will put your name on your responses. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. --Canyouhearmenow 19:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will continue to work then, though it seems a lot of my progress a moment ago was deleted instead of allowing me the chance to modify it. Jfett69 (talk) 19:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How can an article like the Rome News Tribune meet the notoriety standards and our organization not? We are both news organizations in the same town in Georgia. Jfett69 (talk) 19:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot speak for another article, I can only respond to the one I am dealing with. If the other article does not meet WP:Notability guidelines, I am sure at some point it will be dealt with. But lets just try to see where this one will go first. Thank you. --Canyouhearmenow 20:16, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have any more suggestions please let me know. I will continue to work and take care of any issues brought to my attention. Jfett69 (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In all of the sources that you have added to the subject's article they all point back to the college itself and Viking Fusion as a program within its curriculum. This is why I suggested the article may want to be merged. I am just not sure the program meets the notability guidelines on its own merits. --Canyouhearmenow 20:36, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The college is only referenced in this sources as a way of identifying where the organization comes from. The Red and Black is separate from UGA, but is still its student newspaper, meanwhile publications like The Sentinel (KSU) are part of the academic curriculum but are also allowed a separate Wikipedia article. Another entry, Radio K, is a student radio station that was also a finalist in an award we won. They too have their own Wiki article.Jfett69 (talk) 20:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would converting the article into a stub be more suitable by chance? Jfett69 (talk) 20:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 17:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 17:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So what's the word? I have supplied several professional and notable references, I have stated that merging our group's article would not be accepted by the College administration, and I have also brought attention to other, less-qualified articles that already exist on Wikiepedia. I hope to hear good news soon! Thank you very much for the help in improving the article. Jfett69 (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We have to wait for other editors to chime in to give an opinion on the fate of the article. Or we have to wait for a review administrator to close the deletion debate with a no consensus decision. So, it really is a waiting match. Keep up the great work. --Canyouhearmenow 22:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:41, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ron for helping to get more discussion over the page. Hope to hear good news soon! Jfett69 (talk) 07:21, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. With new sources, the club appears to be notable. The policy appropriate for this page is at WP:CLUB. It reads:

Some organizations are local in scope, but have achieved national or even international notice. Organizations whose activities are local in scope (e.g., a school or club) can be considered be notable if there is substantial verifiable evidence of coverage by reliable independent sources outside the organization's local area. Where coverage is only local in scope, consider adding a section on the organization to an article on the organization's local area instead.

The current sources supporting notability appear to be the following:

this article by a Metro Atlanta newspaper also mentioning an award (given by College Broadcasting Inc.) won by a comedy show within the club.
this finalist nomination of the club's staff by College Broadcasters Inc. in a national competition,
this nomination for Outstanding Achievement: Student Production Excellence, (Non-‐News) by the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Southeast.
Article from RomaNews about participation by some club members in Obama teleconference.

Berry University is located in the northern part of Georgia. I would argue that the Metro Atlanta piece represents non-local coverage, and that the two articles by RomaNews and the awards help supplement notability of this organization that goes beyond local coverage. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 08:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse Decision to Keep. With all of the new work that has been done to the article, it now in my opinion meets the notability guidelines for wikipedia. I would however argue that the article be listed as a WP:stub. Thanks for all of the work to bring this article out of the flames! --Canyouhearmenow 11:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is great news indeed. I think the club classification would fit nicely, but I have heard of these stub articles. What should I do next to change in order to comply with the final decisions here? Thanks again! Jfett69 (talk) 13:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the final decision. This is the community consensus and a administrator will make the final call on the article. The more you can expand the article, the better it is going to look to pull it out of a stub category. I want to thank you for helping to pull this article out of a deletion state because I can assure you that had you not done it, it would have been deleted. Thanks again! --Canyouhearmenow 14:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will begin expanding as much as I can, thank you very much for the continued assistance. Jfett69 (talk) 16:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.