Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Third Batman Film (2012)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Batman film (2012). What I will do is move, without redirect, this article to Wikipedia:Article incubator/Untitled Third Batman Film (2012); at that point the article can be merged within the same namespace so that attribution is preserved. –MuZemike 22:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Future films the film has not started principal photography and is untitled. The page can be recreated later when there is notable, confirmed information from reliable sources. D•g Talk to me/What I've done 02:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Revisit it after it's gotten an official title, at the very least. - J Greb (talk) 02:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - The article for the next Batman film is already located in the Wikipedia incubator.-5- (talk) 03:25, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Without a doubt; doesn't even have a title yet. – Alex43223 T | C | E 03:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. JIP | Talk 05:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment this film, under various different titles, has been deleted before, and some were redirected to the last film's sequel section. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - We've had several discussions before (like this one, this (bizarre) one, this one and this one). All have come to the same conclusion - delete, largely due to failing WP:CRYSTAL. I agree. (As -5- states, we also have what will presumably be the article in the incubator.) DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 10:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per movie version of WP:HAMMER. And WP:NFF.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 11:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge This is a duplicate in topic of an article about a third Batman film already written and awaiting improvements in the incubator: See Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Batman film (2012). While laudable in efforts and sourcing, we have no need for a "new" article when we have one waiting in the wings. So if any of the sourced information in this second article about this topic, is itself unique to this second article, I would urge that such new sourced infomation be merged to the artice in the incubator. And heck... perhaps author UserJimscrooge might be prevailed upon to extend his efforts to improving the incubated article? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 11:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It doesn't appear as though there is anything in this article that isn't already in the incubator article, with the exception of a bunch of rumors (albeit referenced) that were agreed upon to be removed from the Batman in film article, and which I thus removed from the incubator article.-5- (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- @ User:-5-: The information in the incubated article's casting section that you removed was, as you noted, sourced. You might consider returning them, as sourced commentary as to casting and pre-production decisions is indeed relevent to a reader's understanding of the topic. Readers might appreciate that Kate Beckinsale has expressed interest in playing Catwoman,[1] and that Angelina Jolie had been suggested to play the role by Julie Newmar.[2] They might appreciate knowing David Tennant wants to portray the Riddler,[3] as does Michael C. Hall.[4] Reader's might apreciate knowing that though these others have expressed interest, it has been reported that Joseph Gordon-Levitt had been approached for that role.[5] They may get a chuckle out of Gorden-Levitt's representatives denyin his involvement,[6] despite evidence to the contrary.[7] Readers might also appreciate Michael Caine's stating that one of the studio execs wanted to cast Johnny Depp as the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin,[8]... while neither Hoffman nor Depp have (yet) been approached.[9][10] This project has become of such interest that even Robin Williams has stated an interest in being in the film in some capacity.[11] With respects, and even if not done by yourself, if/when someone returns that sourced information to the incubated article, you really might wish to discuss rather than remove a second time. It might have been more prudent to perhaps re-written what was there, or discuss with the editor that researched and added it, rather than remove entire blocks of sourced content. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- You may want to weigh in on this discussion.-5- (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Will do, thank you. That talk page for Batman in film holds an interesting discussion, and yes... THAT particular article need not contain everything already included in all the other various Batman projects. Its section "Batman in film#Untitled third installment (2012)" need only hit the highlights and then (eventually) include a link back to the 2012 film article (if/when in mainspace) for readers to find the fleshed-out details. As I was speaking above about the curently incubated article, and while in the incubator, that's where we especially encourage growth and sourcing in anticipation of it being (maybe) eventually sent to mainspace... and it serves to be as thorough as possible as we might "off of mainspace"... with such articles evolving through regular editing. There is no expectation that it is ready yet... or that it might be ready anytime soon. But allowing it to grow and evolve while there serves the better need of the project. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- You may want to weigh in on this discussion.-5- (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- @ User:-5-: The information in the incubated article's casting section that you removed was, as you noted, sourced. You might consider returning them, as sourced commentary as to casting and pre-production decisions is indeed relevent to a reader's understanding of the topic. Readers might appreciate that Kate Beckinsale has expressed interest in playing Catwoman,[1] and that Angelina Jolie had been suggested to play the role by Julie Newmar.[2] They might appreciate knowing David Tennant wants to portray the Riddler,[3] as does Michael C. Hall.[4] Reader's might apreciate knowing that though these others have expressed interest, it has been reported that Joseph Gordon-Levitt had been approached for that role.[5] They may get a chuckle out of Gorden-Levitt's representatives denyin his involvement,[6] despite evidence to the contrary.[7] Readers might also appreciate Michael Caine's stating that one of the studio execs wanted to cast Johnny Depp as the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin,[8]... while neither Hoffman nor Depp have (yet) been approached.[9][10] This project has become of such interest that even Robin Williams has stated an interest in being in the film in some capacity.[11] With respects, and even if not done by yourself, if/when someone returns that sourced information to the incubated article, you really might wish to discuss rather than remove a second time. It might have been more prudent to perhaps re-written what was there, or discuss with the editor that researched and added it, rather than remove entire blocks of sourced content. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with the film article in the incubator per Schmidt's reasoning.—Chris!c/t 22:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per Schmidt "Shoots in April in New Orleans." source Mike Allen 05:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.