Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Twisted (software)

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The result was keep. ST47 (talk) 18:26, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Twisted (software)

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A search for references failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources to comply with notability requirements. This included web searches for news coverage, books, and journals. Consequently, this article is about a subject that appears to lack sufficient notability. Please see the plain-language summary of our notability guidelines. Clnreee (talk) 05:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Clnreee (talk) 05:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:NSOFT. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It seems a notable article to me, with more than 3.3K stars in github.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SebastianQuilo (talk • contribs)
Keep Although I've never used it personally, as a developer who sometimes writes Python code professionally, I've heard of this, and I think most Python developers have heard of it too. And, entire books have been written about it, see:

Mark Williams; Cory Benfield; Brian Warner; Moshe Zadka; Dustin Mitchell; Kevin Samuel; Pierre Tardy (7 December 2018). Expert Twisted: Event-Driven and Asynchronous Programming with Python. Apress. ISBN 978-1-4842-3742-7.
Abe Fettig; Glyph Lefkowitz (20 October 2005). Twisted Network Programming Essentials. "O'Reilly Media, Inc.". ISBN 978-0-596-10032-2.

The second book is not entirely independent, since the original developer of Twisted is one of its coauthors. Still, O'Reilly is a respected publisher in the field, and even if not entirely independent, having a book on the topic published by O'Reilly is a definite sign of notability. Also, see these books which discuss it extensively:

Alex Martelli (14 July 2006). Python in a Nutshell: A Desktop Quick Reference. "O'Reilly Media, Inc.". p. 540. ISBN 978-1-4493-7910-0.
John Goerzen; Brandon Rhodes (21 December 2010). Foundations of Python Network Programming: The comprehensive guide to building network applications with Python. Apress. p. 115. ISBN 978-1-4302-3003-8.
Sai Yamanoor; Srihari Yamanoor (26 February 2015). Raspberry Pi Mechatronics Projects HOTSHOT. Packt Publishing Ltd. p. 173. ISBN 978-1-84969-623-4.
Mark Vasilkov (29 January 2015). Kivy Blueprints. Packt Publishing Ltd. pp. 92–. ISBN 978-1-78398-785-6.

@Clnreee: I know you say you did WP:BEFORE, but did you not find any of the above in Google Books? I found these just by searching for "twisted" and "python" as search terms. (And, a Google Scholar search for the same search terms finds several papers mentioning Twisted, although I haven't looked in detail to see if those are extensive coverage or passing mentions, but at least a few of the hits appear to be the former rather than the later.) I can also point to extensive coverage by LWN.net:

Edge, Jake (2 June 2016). "Twisted and Python 3". LWN.net. Retrieved 2019-06-20. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
Edge, Jake (22 June 2016). "Twisted in an asyncio world". LWN.net. Retrieved 2019-06-20. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

SJK (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per SJK. I agree with SJK that the O'Reilly book contributes toward notability; they are a high quality, selective publisher with independent technical reviewers, leading to a substantial reliable source that provides evidence of the impact the software has made on the field that few third-party libraries attain. In addition to the LWN coverage, there have been articles in reliable sources, such as the Linux Journal:
- Kinder, Ken. "Event-Driven Programming with Twisted and Python | Linux Journal". www.linuxjournal.com. Linux Journal.

All the above evidence shows the topic is notable per WP:GNG. The article itself does not have any insurmountable problems. Hence, keep. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 10:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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