Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trump effect (3rd nomination)
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The result was delete. WP:SNOW. asilvering (talk) 03:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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Collection of quotes showing no evidence that "Trump effect" exists as a well-defined, studied concept. There's also a big issue of WP:RECENTISM about defining it as the specific effect of Trump's 2024 reelection, given that previous iterations of the same idea were repeatedly deleted in 2016, in 2017 and in 2023.
Also, not a policy but I'm tempted to link to this essay: Wikipedia:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and other claims. Hoax? Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
As the person who created (or recreated, I suppose) this article, I will go with whatever the consensus is. Perhaps the content could be merged into some other article? The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and WP:SALT. This is the third time this has been brought to AFD, and every time its brought here the term "Trump effect" has a different definition. That's because its a WP:NEOLOGISM without clear definition.4meter4 (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, I agree that the attempts to create an article under this name have all be nonsense but I do think a redirect to Trumpism could be useful here. It seems clear that this is a term the media uses. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This is a potentially legitimate subject, and there are publications about it (e.g. [1]), but the page is merely a set of random quotations. My very best wishes (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Reuteurs wrote this is non-notable. This is basically a list of quotes, I'm not sure how this is an "effect" whe there is little to no critical discussion of this concept. Seems like an attack page of sorts. Oaktree b (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that that the article in Reuters and a few others I saw are insufficient. Even the exact subject here is not clear. One would think this is a page about the influence of Trump on US society and politics (and it is enormous!), but this is not how the subject was framed on the page. My very best wishes (talk) 01:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: For all the reasons above. — Maile (talk) 22:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy or snow delete. The article doesn't even say what the alleged subject is. "certain incidents" is not a defined subject at all. Most of the article is an indiscriminate list of News articles, only two of which even have "Trump effect" in their headlines, and none of which have any obvious relation to each other other than proximity to Trump and November 2024. This is worse than some of the previous unsuccessful attempts at an article under this name which did at least attempt to find a topic to write about. I think it might be speedily deleted under WP:A1 if we treat the list content as irrelevant padding. Failing that it's a snow delete. Maybe there will be something called the "Trump effect" one day. I could see it being used to describe a coarsening of political discourse for example, but it is not for us to coin such neologisms. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete, and WP:SALT, as per most of the above.TH1980 (talk) 03:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speedily delete, seems like an attack page if anything. Also appears to be a :dictionary definition at best, certainly not a useful article to have. -Samoht27 (talk) 17:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
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