Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trouble with a Heartbreak
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSINGLE and WP:NOTTEMP notability for a stand-alone article for a single song. Four references in Billboard give it passing mention on the weekly chart of top 100 singles. Other citations are industry sites which announced the release. Suggest a re-direct to Macon, Georgia (album). Blue Riband► 20:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Blue Riband► 20:01, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. The articles from The Boot, Taste of Country, and Nash News are all WP:SIGCOV about the song itself. Other sources such as Music Universe, Country Now, and Sounds Like Nashville have also covered the song in depth. It was also the most added song to radio playlists on the week of its release. Furthermore, it hasn't even been out two months yet, meaning it hasn't reached its peak position yet. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:18, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer, I'm not knowledgeable of this music genera. This article raised a red flag when some heavy editing, by an editor with a username suggesting a COI, was done without summaries. From my initial reading it was heavily dependent on industry release announcements and Billboard tracking. The Moxley source the you cited appears in the article as well. Out two months and yet to reach its peak? The 45rpm distribution is having a supply chain issue? Billboard has it going down in popularity. I've no vested interest on whether this is a keep or a delete and the editorial consensus will eventually sort it out.Blue Riband► 23:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Blue Riband: Country music singles tend to move slower than in other genres, since they're still more dependent on airplay than on downloads or streaming. The previous single was released in July but didn't hit #1 on the airplay chart until October. The sources cited are The Boot, Taste of Country, Music Universe, Nash News, Off the Record UK, and Country Now, all of which are reputable third-party websites with no direct connection to the artist. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:26, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer, I'm not knowledgeable of this music genera. This article raised a red flag when some heavy editing, by an editor with a username suggesting a COI, was done without summaries. From my initial reading it was heavily dependent on industry release announcements and Billboard tracking. The Moxley source the you cited appears in the article as well. Out two months and yet to reach its peak? The 45rpm distribution is having a supply chain issue? Billboard has it going down in popularity. I've no vested interest on whether this is a keep or a delete and the editorial consensus will eventually sort it out.Blue Riband► 23:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Blue Riband: Are you sure you meant to invoke WP:NOTTEMP? You do know that links to Wikipedia:Arguments to make in deletion discussions, right? Also pinging @Caldorwards4:, @Martin4647:, @Hog Farm:, and @ChrisTofu11961: for their expertise. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:32, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Caldorwards4, yes, I am invoking WP:NOTTEMP. As I mentioned above to TenPoundHammer what I was reading was industry coverage of its release, and the subsequent followup were Billboard Top 100 listings. Clearly the both the artist and the album have passed the WP:GNG bar, but I'm not seeing where this single meets that threshold. (And with that reply, I'll not comment further in this discussion unless it is to answer a specific question put to me lest it appear that I'm also invoking WP:Bludgeon) Blue Riband► 23:09, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Ten Pound Hammer. I think there's enough here between The Boot, Country Now, etc., although it isn't the most heavily covered yet. Side note: about the two months - that's nothing. "After a Few" took over a year to peak. Hog Farm Talk 23:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:NSONG with sources presented by Ten Pound Hammer. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 00:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I am in agreement with @TenPoundHammer: that this article is notable. The articles cited on this page are from professional journalists with expertise of the inner workings of the music industry. It's reputable enough to keep. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 03:30, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable song with enough coverage. Ss112 22:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Ten Pound Hammer,passes WP:NSONG .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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