Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The National Locksmith Certification Program

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The result was Delete Doesn't meet the WP:GNG. --Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 00:01, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The National Locksmith Certification Program

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Lack of reliable, independent, published sources means this article can't be verified by users and it isn't clear that this meets our general guidelines on notability. The one source is obviously self-published and there is more than a hint of advertising about this entry. Prod was contested by original author, so bringing here for discussion. Sparthorse (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then remove the link and thus advertising? Is it advertising to link CompTIA's website on their certifications? TylerJThomas87 (talk) 00:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The core problem is the lack of sources that meet Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources. This means that the article cannot be verified by readers (please see WP:V for why that is important and what it means). It also means that the article does not qualify for inclusion in Wikipedia because it does not demonstrate how the subject is notable (please see WP:N for what that is important and what it means). If you can find proper sources to demonstrate that this subject is notable, it will more than likely be kept. Good luck, Sparthorse (talk) 00:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I would have to agree that the topic doesn't pass the general notability guideline or any other inclusion criteria for that matter. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 00:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does this suffice? http://www.ozimel.com/wordpress/2011/03/favourite-media-text/ Would you like a copy of their first edition from 1929? They've been in the industry for nearly a century now. What exactly are you looking for? TylerJThomas87 (talk) 00:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. First, the article is self-published. See WP:RS. Second, the article is about The National Locksmith, not about the certification program. It doesn't verify anything, other than that The National Locksmith exists. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 01:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Included an actual, independent citation. Apologies for the confusion. TylerJThomas87 (talk) 01:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Without going to the library I can’t tell the depth of coverage in the one independent source provided, but even if it gives significant coverage, multiple sources are generally expected. The “Find sources” links above find no independent sources online. —teb728 t c 04:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- Doing my best to find others. The two other independent sources I have found aren't publicly accessible. I could link but all that shows up is a Login page. TylerJThomas87 (talk) 06:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom; fails GNG for want of multiple, secondary sources available. Bearian (talk) 01:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.