Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SIIINES

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The result was delete. No prejudice towards redirection Mark Arsten (talk) 20:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SIIINES

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Article about a musical group that depends entirely on self-published references. Seems to lack notability per WP:BAND. Only one news reference found in Google news, providing only a trivial mention. - Mr X 01:41, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The only sources are their website, their Facebook page, and their YouTube page. Wait, they're not sources, just external links. I also did the Google News search and found the lone article from a local newspaper where the band gets all of a half sentence dedicated to them. ~Adjwilley (talk) 04:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Adjwilley. I was unable to find significant coverage for this band aside from the Edmonton Journal piece; the subject does not yet appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Gong show 04:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can't find good secondary sources to establish the band's notability. Andrew³²⁷ 05:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Correct me if I'm wrong, but this article was created based on this point "Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles." Is that incorrect? Two of the three members are former members of the band Social Code with multiple nationally charting songs and multiple videos with airplay on MuchMusic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rxrxrxrxrxrx (talk • contribs) 05:32, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Normally this would be true Rxr except that the ensemble does not contain two or more independently notable musicians. The two founders do not have their own articles establishing notability. They have been part of a notable band, but its being debated below whether or not one band warrants another or even a redirect. Mkdw ^talk 19:44, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, thanks for the clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rxrxrxrxrxrx (talk • contribs) 19:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Social Code - the band itself is not notable (two members have only been a member of one independently notable band, you need two to be inherently notable per WP:NMUSIC), but its members have notability established in another article, and that's where the content goes. --Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 09:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ~~Disagree with redirect, the bands are completely separate.~~ I'm not convinced about the redirect; if Mel Gibson and Brad Pitt did a non-notable student film it would not redirect to another film they both happened to be in. Delete on grounds that notability is not inherent and the current band fails WP:BAND Mkdw ^talk 10:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your logic is broken, because Mel Gibson and Brad Pitt are independently notable of the works they have appeared in, whereas this band is only significant because of two ex members who are only notable for being in that band. By your same logic, why have you not nominated Travis Nesbitt for deletion? --Ritchie333 [[User talk:Ritchie333|^(talk)]^(cont) 10:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Nesbit is a redirect to the band he is in where as technically not everyone in the Siines is in the Social Code. The band is seemingly more than it's two members whom not all have a relation to Social Code (1/3rd of the band). Whether they're notable individually or is not the basis of my argument. Either way the Siines has not seemingly amounted to anything significant yet and until that fact should be looked at separately. I'm not hugely opposed to the redirect as the guidelines for inclusion are in a much larger grey area but I find it unlikely that many will use the redirect over Social Code as the Siines has not released any material outside of a few mp3 files. Mkdw ^talk 17:30, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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