Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prithviraj Productions (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Prithviraj Sukumaran. While on a solely numerical basis this might at first look like a "no consensus", AfD is not a vote. Two of the keep arguments do not address at all the amount of available reference material about this subject, but only argue about what it has done, which is not relevant to notability. One keep argument does argue sufficiency of sources, but is refuted by several later arguments to merge following it. Given this, the consensus here is that this is not a suitable subject for a standalone article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 15:54, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prithviraj Productions

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The article does not have sufficient references to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations/companies (WP:ORG). The references currently included are primarily routine announcements about the company's upcoming/past productions. Many of the references are also about the actor Prithviraj Sukumaran producing some movies. None of these references meet the necessary standards for notability. Akevsharma (talk) 12:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Kerala. Akevsharma (talk) 12:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - noted company that distributed or produced noted films like K.G.F: Chapter 2, 83 (film), Kantara, 777 Charlie and others. Twinkle1990 (talk) 12:56, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Notability criteria for organizations, such as companies are outlined in WP:ORG. It says that the organization must have significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the organization. This is outlined in WP:CORPDEPTH.

Simply being the production company of some notable films does not necessarily make a company notable. In this case, the sources provided in the article do not meet the necessary level of our notability requirements. Akevsharma (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:46, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️^{Let's Talk !} 15:15, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources are about some movie reviews, its productions and announcements. There are no sources that help to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. 202.164.137.43 (talk) 05:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lord Roem ~ (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a company therefore GNG/NCORP guidelines apply. We require multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Articles that rely entirely on interviews with people associated with the company fail the criteria. There's no source where the topic company is discussed in-depth and in detail. Topic fails GNG/NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 20:18, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~sockstrike - All the produced films have an wikipedia article and references. Valiaveetil (talk) 07:02, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Valiaveetil, Whose sock are you, as asked by DaxServer [1] ? Akevsharma (talk) 10:46, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per consensus at DRV.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 04:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Going to give this a full two-relists following the nominator's block and reopening following DRV.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 02:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The company receives sustained coverage that extends beyond passing mentions, indicating its notability in the eyes of the media. Multiple independent and verifiable secondary sources contribute to it passing WP:NOTPROMO. News coverage on film production companies is inevitably associated with their productions, and it's indeed the success of films that makes a company noteworthy. Furthermore, the owner being a popular actor, any news will be intertwined with him too, much like Appian Way Productions and Leonardo DiCaprio. It meets the "Significant Coverage" requirement by satisfying WP:AUD with "at least one" regional (Mathrubhumi), statewide (Kerala Kaumudi), national (India Today), or international (Variety) source. It has ample "media coverage focusing on a product [movies]" under Examples of substantial coverage. It also fulfills the general notability guideline under alternate criteria. The company is also notable for their collaborations with Sony Pictures for its debut film, for producing the first science fiction film in Malayalam cinema, for producing the first virtual production in India, for distributing K.G.F: Chapter 2—the highest-grossing film in Kannada cinema, for distributing Kantara—the second highest-grossing film in Kannada cinema. It also produced and distributed seven films in 2022 alone, garnering attention from the government, prompting an IT investigation.--Gan Favourite (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per my comments on DRV. This is a notable company and has really contributed in many notable movies. Aman.kumar.goel (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Prithviraj Sukumaran. I'm not seeing WP:NCORP-satisfying coverage, as the only one source presented thus far that included independent analysis of the company (The Week, and not very much even then). Further, most of the cited sources merely refer to the company as an extension of Sukumaran and his work--some even fail to capitalize "Productions". _signed,Rosguill ^talk 03:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Rosguill. Stifle (talk) 08:21, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.