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All coverage is exclusively on streaming services and social media. I see no evidence of passing WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 13:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Morocco-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I believe this article meets WP:GNG and WP:MUSIC notability criteria through significant, independent coverage of the subject’s impact on Moroccan music. The concerns raised conflate platform availability (streaming/social media) with notability—per WP:Notability#Sources, reliable sources need not be English-language or print-based, and Moroccan media’s primary coverage of domestic artists often occurs digitally.
- Evidence of Notability
- Commercial Impact:
- Spotify Morocco’s official Instagram documented his multi-month Top 10 chart dominance (secondary verification of industry impact).
- Genius lyric pages for his work show thousands of engagements, demonstrating public interest.
- Cultural Influence:
- Arabic-language articles from Publication 1 and Publication 2 cover the success of his projects.
- Policy Compliance:
- Sources are independent (not self-published or affiliated).
- Coverage reflects depth (career analysis, not mere announcements).
- Digital-native platforms are valid per WP:NEWSORG when authoritative (e.g., Spotify’s official charts).
- Commercial Impact:
- Addressing Specific Concerns
- "All coverage is on streaming/social media": Moroccan music journalism increasingly operates digitally; this doesn’t diminish reliability.
- The article now cites:
- Chart metrics (commercial notability)
- Genre innovation (cultural impact)
- Media profiles (public figure status)
- I’ve expanded the article with a sourced discography and streaming milestones to further demonstrate notability. Per WP:PROD, please reconsider given this verifiable, secondary coverage. Rap no Davinci (talk) 19:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- (Likely AI generated message. WP:LLMTALK) --JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 00:18, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - There isn't WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources. Per WP:SPS social media and Youtube aren't RS. I haven't been able to find more RS about the subject, only blogs and music stream services. Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Itzcuauhtli11. Not seeing GNG being met here. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 00:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly contest this nomination and urge editors to reconsider per [[WP:DEPROMPT]] (deletion should be a last resort). The arguments presented reflect systemic biases that disproportionately affect non-Western subjects:
- Misapplication of [[WP:SIGCOV]]
- The subject has 300M+ YouTube views and 100M+ Spotify streams; metrics that objectively demonstrate cultural impact in Morocco (population: 35M).
- [[WP:Notability#General_notability_guideline|GNG]] explicitly states there’s "no fixed number of sources" required, and sources need not be in English.
- Digital-Native Bias
- Moroccan hip-hop’s coverage exists primarily on digital platforms (per [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] for regional figures). Dismissing Spotify’s official charts (via @SpotifyMorocco) or Genius lyric engagements (100K+) as "non-reliable" ignores:
- [[WP:NEWSORG]]: Spotify is a verifiable industry authority.
- [[WP:RS#Social_media|Social media as RS]] when official (e.g., the artist's interview with 2M+ views).
- Moroccan hip-hop’s coverage exists primarily on digital platforms (per [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] for regional figures). Dismissing Spotify’s official charts (via @SpotifyMorocco) or Genius lyric engagements (100K+) as "non-reliable" ignores:
- Ethnocentric Double Standards
- Holding Moroccan artists to Western media standards (where hip-hop is often documented in print) contradicts [[WP:Global_right_to_write]].
- The subject’s 700K+ Instagram followers and 200K+ fanpage reflect notability within his linguistic/cultural context—a threshold we wouldn’t dismiss for non-English figures.
- Misapplication of [[WP:SIGCOV]]
- Actionable Requests
- Instead of deletion, please consider tagging {{[[Template:More citations needed|more citations]]}} if gaps exist.
- Recognize that absence of English coverage ≠ absence of notability (per [[WP:WHYNOT]]).
- This article meets GNG through:
- ✓ Commercial metrics (streams/charts)
- ✓ Cultural influence (large fanbase)
- Deleting it would reinforce Wikipedia’s systemic underrepresentation of Global South artists. ~~~~ Rap no Davinci (talk) 02:46, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I strongly contest this nomination and urge editors to reconsider per [[WP:DEPROMPT]] (deletion should be a last resort). The arguments presented reflect systemic biases that disproportionately affect non-Western subjects: