Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nosocomephobia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Transwiki to Wiktionary (page created). Black Kite 16:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nosocomephobia

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A nonnotable disease. No reliable sources beyond dictionary definitions. There are no hits on google Scholar, hence it is clinically nonnotable. One may coin a "phobia" word from any greek or latin or even english noun. Mukadderat (talk) 03:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Please notiy me next time before nominating an article I created. Nosocomephobia is a legitimate psychological condition (which I myself suffer from) and is not just a dictionary definition. Per ~~this health article~~ this webpage something that causes people to have heart palpitations, Hyperventilation, Breathlessness and Rapid Heartbeat seems like a notable encyclopedic article to me. And my sources do meet WP:RS as reliable and independent of the subject. As proof that this is a legitimate medical condition this source says, "Like all phobias, a fear of hospitals can be cured, by therapy, medication, hypnosis, or a combination." just like you would take care of any other disease or condition. -Marcusmax(speak) 04:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- None of those web pages is a reliable source. The same web site includes listings for a number of obvious "joke" phobias such as arachibutyrophobia (the fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of your mouth), keraunothnetophobia (the "fear of fall of satellites"), and, of course, triskaidekaphobia. (It also describes them all in the exact same terms -- a clear sign that they're just generating cookie-cutter content for search engines.) Can you find a scholarly source which describes this fear in detail? Zetawoof_(ζ) 19:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well we aren't commenting on an AfD that has anything to do with those phobias, which no matter how weird they might seem are actually legitimate phobias as well. My sources all come from Google books, or medical sites and for you to say that they are all unreliable is far from the truth. -Marcusmax(speak) 21:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Not every book on Google Books is a reliable source. The two books currently linked from the article (Oxford handbook of psychiatry and Phobias revealed and explained) are not reliable sources for this article, as the former only mentions nosocomephobia in passing, and the latter is a picture book depicting phobias. What medical sites have you consulted? (As per below, PubMed finds no mention of nosocomephobia in medical journals.) Zetawoof_(ζ) 00:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - Are you kidding me? Oxford University is not a reliable source? It establishes that this word was not just made up by some blogger but is instead recognized by one of the world's leading educational bodies. -Marcusmax(speak) 01:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        It established that the word exists, but you have no information about the phobia itself or about cases of this phobia Laudak (talk) 04:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Adequately sourced, and per above. It's definitely notable enough for inclusion. Airplaneman ^talk 05:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Legitimate article on notable disease. IShadowed ✰ 06:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Google is not the repository of all knowledge. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 08:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. PubMed finds no mention of "nosocomephobia" in the medical literature. Per our very own article List of phobias, "a large number of -phobia lists circulate on the Internet, with words collected from indiscriminate sources, often copying each other". While the fear of hospitals is no doubt real for some people, the condition does not appear to be documented in any WP:RS. Zetawoof_(ζ) 00:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- So Oxford amongst others are just going to make this term up? I can understand if it was just some blogger, or one or two books but my sources clearly demonstrate using significant coverage that this is not just some fake internet term. -Marcusmax(speak) 01:05, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No reputable references (with the exception of content spamming websites described in List of phobias article) which describe this phobia in reasonable detail. The cited book "Phobias revealed" is one big joke of source: it is a "phobia list" snatched from internet and embellished with pictures. Laudak (talk) 04:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- And how do you know it was "snatched from the internet", where is your proof? -Marcusmax(speak) 15:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- It exists. That said, unless there is significant coverage of this phobia in a reliable source, a line in List of phobias is all it merits. — æk ^Talk 07:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Although I do love the fact that the word can be proven to exist by this book. Until such time as it appears in something more RS-like (al la PubMed) I would have to go with a Delete for now. Exit2DOS ^{• Ctrl • Alt • Del} 06:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Proposition - I would like to thank you all for your overwhelmingly strong opinions. I think you can all agree the word does exist, but for those advocating delete maybe transwiki to wikitionary would be a better option? --Marcusmax(speak) 23:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed. The references in the WP article are more than enough for the Wiktionary inclusion criteria. — æk ^Talk 00:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Move to fear of hospitals. Sławomir Biały (talk) 21:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Just because this word appears in some lists of phobias doesn't mean we should have an article about it. There's no hits to articles on PubMed or Google Scholar, showing that this has no real notability. Wikipedia isn't a repository of quirky words. I don't suggest transwiki as this isn't formatted at all like what Wiktionary want, and I am not sure the permanently archived sources exist to attest to the use of this term according to their criteria. Fences&Windows 21:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge a condensed version into Hospital. It exists and is referenced, but doesn't really require a separate article. SMC (talk) 08:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.