Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of finite-difference time-domain software

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 03:46, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of finite-difference time-domain software

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Wikipedia is not directory and not for random lists. List of warez which use a certain mathematical method is rather arbitrary, similar to List of songs about death. If a certain piece of software is notable, it mst have its own article or a section in the article about the math method. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:53, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There are many lists of software on Wikipedia, organized by type of software or the problems to be solved. For instance, 135 such articles are listed in Category:List-Class software articles. The creation of such standalone lists is approved in the manual of style; see MOS:LIST for details. Regarding lists of software which use a certain mathematical method, we already have such articles. For instance, we have a List of finite element software packages article organized about the finite element method and List of software for Monte Carlo molecular modeling organized about the Monte Carlo method.

Thus the creation of a list-class software article around a mathematical method is a reasonable enterprise; there is no grounds for deletion based on current Wikipedia practice and guidelines. The real question is whether any of the mentioned software programs in the list have articles themselves on Wikipedia or satisfy notability guidelines. If not, it seems reasonable to pare the list down to a stub. Mark viking (talk) 01:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

? So what now, are we going to create a List of bubble-sort software? There must be an evidence of notability for such lists, unless we have articles about separate items. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I was presenting evidence that creating such a list around a mathematical method didn't violate any Wikipedia guidelines that I knew of. MOS:LIST indicates that such lists should be lists of existing Wikipedia articles. I agree that if few or none of the FDTD programs listed have associated Wikipedia articles, there is no point in creating or retaining the list-class article. Mark viking (talk) 04:20, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a list of things that don't exist in Wikipedia and is going to turn into a coatrack for non-notable software. We create lists to organize existing information in the encyclopedia; where there is no substantial information (only 8 4 blue links there) there is no need for a list. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:17, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COATRACK is usually brought up when there is an issue of bias or undue weight. I'm curious--what do you see as the potential biases here? Thanks, Mark viking (talk) 03:33, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not coatrack in the strict sense, but rather a list of handy redlinks to create more articles about non-notable software. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 00:03, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 13:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 13:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | squeal _ 20:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia is not a directory that contains a number of non-notable software links, which fails WP:LINKFARM. I concur with FreeRangeFrog (talk · contribs). TBr and ley ^{(what's up)} 19:34, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I agree with FreeRangeFrog, this is different from a good list like List of finite element software packages because it contains almost exclusively redlinks. --Cerebellum (talk) 19:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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