Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurt Phyll

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt Phyll

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This was originally a PROD, rationale was that this player fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. The PROD was contested on the basis that another Wikipedia article makes an unsourced assertion of notability - but that claim is simply not correct. There is no evidence of notability here at all. Giant Snowman 09:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 11:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 13:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commment - The website [1] isn't entirely conclusive, as it doesn't have some older matches, including those from 2001 Caribbean Cup and The Other Final where was reported that Kurt Phyll was named to the 14-man final squad to travel to Bhutan. [2]. While I've seen no evidence that he did play, I've also not seen a line-up from that match, or other matches. He did sit on the bench for at least 3 later matches (all of the 2004 and 2008 World Cup qualifying matches). We need to find match reports from the earlier matches to determine if he has played in some of the earlier matches. Nfitz (talk) 14:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Absent sources confirming it, we cannot assume he has played for Montserrat, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Phyll has only made it as far as a substitute in a number of games as per sources on Soccerway, the Caribbean Football Database and FIFA website. I did have a copy of The Other Final on DVD but have no idea where it is these days - althought I'm pretty sure there is a copy on YouTube if you want to trawl through. --Jimbo^[online] 13:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I've trawled through a bit of it on Youtube. It looks stunningly beautiful to watch! But I've seen no clear indication of line-ups. And I found the person who had added the stat of his "start" who thinks he may have erred in adding that. So no evidence of a start. Though if you look at those sources you've listed, they don't include all the matches - the absense of some Carribean Cup tournaments in the records (let alone friendlies) for that period is troubling. I've no where left to look though. Nfitz (talk) 15:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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