Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jono Pandolfi

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Jono Pandolfi

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Fails the notability standard; WP:GNG (WP:ARTIST). No widespread sources in WP:RS. A search of sources doesn't find much beyond Paddofi's personal websites. The article was created by a WP:SPA. GuardianH (talk) 20:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and New York. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:47, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

• Keep. @GuardianH, thanks for keeping an eye out for articles that may have been spammed! That said, if the subject turns out to be notable, we keep the article and fix it. I have to remind myself that we "don't want to cut off our own nose to spite our face" since it can seem like the spammer wins. But our goal is building content, not punishing spammers.

When looking at an article for potential deletion, use the search tools listed at the top of the page to check for sources. Some people refer to this as "WP:BEFORE". Anyway, I used some of those links and quickly found a ton of stuff:

• • DePalma, Nancy (14 March 2023). "Meet the Ceramicist to the MICHELIN Stars". Michelin Guide. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
  • "Studio Visit: Jono Pandolfi, Union City, New Jersey". Ceramics Monthly. Summer 2021. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
    • Lengthy technical interview - doesn't count for notability but very good for building the article.
  • Dunn, Elizabeth G. (7 March 2022). "The Not-So-Precious Business Behind Bespoke Tableware". Edible Brooklyn. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
  • Kuperinsky, Amy (29 June 2023). "TV's 'The Bear' craved N.J. designer's dishy plates. His answer: Yes, Chef". NJ.com. Retrieved 30 July 2023. (Paywalled)
  • Fabricant, Florence (18 July 2022). "The Art of the Serving Set". The New York Times. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
    • Also 7 more articles] in New York Times that mention Pandolfi (restaurant reviews, gift guides, etc.)
  • Bernard, Sarah (23 February 2007). "Coming to Your Kitchen Table - Birdbaths, Cookie Jars, and More By Jono Pandolfi". New York Magazine. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
  • There's still more out there as a Google News search shows.

Anyway, thanks for your work and i hope this helps with your next AfD.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:26, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

• Comment WP:BEFORE all looks like native advertising and articles in lifestyle magazines or sections (specifically NYT). I think the subject fails WP:ARTIST. I am not finding RS for DoB. I find an interview where he states he attended Skidmore https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/ceramics-monthly/ceramics-monthly-article/Studio-Visit-Jono-Pandolfi-Union-City-New-Jersey-267546#, but I am unable to get the "Daily Candy" page to load, which is used as a source for education. Perhaps this should be reworked as an article about a business person rather than an artist. The articles mentioned above do not fulfill the requirement of "significant critical attention" for an artist. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:35, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
• Keep because the subject passes Wikipedia:Notability. First to push back on WomenArtistUpdate's claim that this fails WP:ARTIST. Per WP:NBIO, "People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria below [such as WP:ARTIST in our case]."

In reference to various additional occupation-specific criteria, such as WP:ARTIST, the policy also states, "Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included. A person who does not meet these additional criteria may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability."

Thus, even if the subject does not the meet WP:ARTIST standards, this alone is not valid reason for deletion, if WP:NBASIC is still met. I believe it is, as significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources exists. Here is a source assessment table:

Source assessment table prepared by User:IAmHuitzilopochtli

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
New York Magazine (https://nymag.com/guides/summer/2010/66749/)	Story is written by a journalist at New York Magazine based on several interviews and original reporting.	New York Magazine follows established journalistic standards.	The entire magazine article is devoted to Jono Pandolfi.	✔ Yes
New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/18/dining/jono-pandolfi-ceramics.html)	The reporter is not affiliated with the subject.	The New York Times is an highly reliable source.	While brief, an entire article is dedicate to this man. This should cut it per logic of WP:100WORDS.	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

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