Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jared Hyatt

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 07:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jared Hyatt

Unbundling from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jose Diaz (baseball player). Good faith gnews/gsearch isn't turning up more than blogs, stat pages, and passing mentions. So it comes down to WP:ATHLETE. Is 9 games at AA and 2 at AAA enough that he's competed at a "fully professional level"? (The proposed Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Notability guidelines says no, but while this did have much consensus, it is just a draft.) Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Trusting nominators good faith search. There is broad interpretation among Wikipedia editors of what constitutes "fully professional" for baseball players, I interpret as having played in one of the major leagues outlined in the proposed (but not fully adopted) baseball notability guidelines, and that minor league players are not notable unless there has been significant coverage of them in reliable, independent sources (not just statistic pages), in which case they would pass the general notability guidelines and would not have to pass WP:ATHLETE.--kelapstick (talk) 16:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and reasoning of Kalepstick. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 17:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Minor League baseball players are under contract with a 'Professional' team, having to be stored in lower class teams, but still 'professional' players with stats. These type of minor league stub can further knowledge of the player by fans in the seats (with Blackberries etc, thus more webhits) or team scouts. WP:ATHLETE and 'people of notability' doesn't take into account that a 'player' and a 'person' of notability are two different things. A 'person' is vague to define. A 'player' of notability, say a minor league baseball player, does have stats and awards to his name sometimes, and these stubs can add perfectly to what Wikipedia was meant to be in the first place! I have reliable references and always note the stubs accordingly.Gjr rodriguez (talk) 21:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not only are some statistic sites just stats on a webpage, they also carry 'history', 'contact information','stadium information', what can be considered "signifigant coverage" with more research available on player beyond just the stats. The websites I reference are more than just a stat site. The stat sites are referenced for the stat tables, the bio info is from different sources melded and noted accordinglyGjr rodriguez (talk) 21:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Statistics or brief mentions in articles about minor league teams do not constitute "significant coverage in reliable sources," as required by WP:N. BRMo (talk) 03:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Guidelines which say that every pro athlete is notable enough for Wikipedia already create an unbalanced situation where it is easier to keep an article about an athlete than one about a writer, scientist, or politician. When we step beyond that guideline and consider minor leaguers, notability must be shown and here it isn't. --Boston (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See, WP:OTHERSTUFF, this is an argument to be avoided whether voting to delete or keep. Borgarde (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Professional athlete as per WP:ATHLETE who has played in a fully professional league. Borgarde (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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