Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Zarzycki (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was delete. Already two AFDs for this subject in one year, let's not make it 3. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:20, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Zarzycki

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Recreation of a page deleted in May at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Zarzycki. He continues to fail WP:NPROF, with according to https://ludzie.nauka.gov.pl/ln/profiles/QAO46PMcoxU/publications a total of 8 publications; Scopus says 21 with 104 citations and an h-factor of 7. All of these are far short of any pass of NPROF. Admin declined CSD G4 on the basis that the pages are not identical, which is a statement I do not agree with as the content is the essentially the same. Hence we now go to a second AfD with (my recommendation) of Salt to avoid a third AfD. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Engineering, Mathematics, and Poland. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping To editors Timtrent, Laura240406, David Eppstein, Vanderwaalforces, Hannes Röst and Piotrus: as participants of the prior AfD. Ldm1954 (talk) 18:18, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, according to his creation log User:KSz at OWPTM (aka User:Kjs) created both the original page that was deleted at the AfD and this one, suggesting to me WP:NOTHERE behavior.Ldm1954 (talk) 18:31, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt: I nominated this at the prior AfD. My nomination rationale there stands. I doubt I needs to duplicate that here, Nonetheless here it is, sans the comment about BEGINS "Fails WP:NPROF. In an AFC review this was stated: "According to https://ludzie.nauka.gov.pl/ln/profiles/QAO46PMcoxU/publications he has a total of 8 publications; Scopus says 21 with 104 citations. This is far short of what we require to pass WP:NPROF. Note that being a Department Chair or Dean does not qualify him either." by Ldm1954, with whom I agree. This is WP:ADMASQ" ENDS 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 18:59, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:PROF is not met; consensus was in favor of deletion before, and nothing has changed in the interim. Salt to prevent further recurrences, since recreation looks likely otherwise. Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction (talk) 19:23, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt. It is indeed not similar enough in writing to qualify for G4 but there is nothing here that adds notability from what was already present and inadequate in the recent previous AfD. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:46, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No sign whatsoever of the kind of impact that we're looking for in NPROF, no other assertion of notability. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 19:51, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I find Piotrus's case against salting (existence of likely notable people with the same name) to be somewhat persuasive. (If this were to be recreated a third time, perhaps not as much.) Russ Woodroofe (talk) 13:08, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Since en wiki does not recognize habilitation as sufficient for inclusion, there is nothing here to rescue this. It seems Zarzycki will have to contend with pl wiki and wikidata entries for now, until his work is recognized by others a bit more. I'll add that if this were to be kept, promotional language like "Jan Zarzycki has conducted numerous research projects," would need to be cleaned up. Last thing - I don't believe a single recreation, of a rewritten article, merits SALTing. In fact, this SHOULD NOT BE SALTED as there are other notable people with this name; pl wiki has a disambig at pl:Jan Zarzycki with three blue and one red link (potential) entries, and the nominated bio is only one of the three there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:59, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom, although salting is going too far. Bearian (talk) 22:21, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:NPROF he fulfills at least the following criteria:
The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.

The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
Both above criteria based on procedure of profesorship by Polish authority. He has been recognized both for his research achievements and in the training of his staff (at least 6 supervision of PhD students-[1]) with the highest recognition, which is the title of professor granted by the President of Poland after a very detailed review.

3. The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association

and

7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.

He was th secretary of Wrocławskie Towarzystwo Naukowe. The Society was founded before World War II in Lviv.

4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.

He was a faculty member of at least third universities.

6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.

He was elected as Dean of Electronic Faculty of Wrocław University of Science and Technology.

Thanks for understanding. Kjs (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kjs If you want to vote keep, please format your vote accordingly (bolded bullet point in a new line). Ditto @KSz at OWPTM _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:36, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/Neutral -- the citation numbers are low; but does the Wroclaw SEP medal count as a senior-level recognition that would pass a WP:PROF criterion? It's close so I'm not sure. I wish people wouldn't recreate articles so soon after deletion -- but I'm also against a Salt here, because the subject is at the age when additional tributes etc. appear (if they are going to), so I don't think it's possible to say he will not become notable in the future. But definitely CSD G4 if this deletion goes through and the article keeps coming up in closely similar forms. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 21:02, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EALCCJJ @Piotrus @Ldm1954 @Russ Woodroofe SEP is a professional association of great importance, comparable to similar ones in English-speaking countries, but with a narrower scope of activity than, for example, IEEE. https://sep.com.pl/en/

B the way:

Please let me know if the editors take into accout references on Jan Zarzycki \

Hübner, Ralph, ed. (2004). "Jan Zarzycki". Who is who w Polsce : leksykon biograficzny z ok. 13.750 nowymi wprowadzeniami, z ok. 4.550 zmianami i z ok. 24.800 wymienionymi nazwiskami znanych polskich osobistości, częściowo ze zdjęciami. Hübners Blaues Who is Who (in Polish). Vol. [Cz. 1, A-Mal ], [Cz. 2, Mał-Ż]. CH-6304 Zug, Alpenstraße 16: Who is Who, Verlag für Personenenzyklopädien AG /założone przez Ralpha Hübnera. p. 2531 s. : il., nuty, portr. ; 22 cm + płyta CD. ISBN 3729000438.
and new, not seen in pl wiki art
"Mathematics Genealogy Project". Retrieved 9 February 2021.

Zarzycki, Jan (2000). "List of publication in MathSciNet". MathSciNet. Retrieved 2021-02-19.

Zarzycki, Jan (2000). "Publication reviewed in zbMATH". zbMATH Open. Retrieved 2021-02-19.
Recorded publications in the field of applications of mathematics show that JZ has not only engineering results but also mathematics.

Additionally, Zarzycki is full professor which is not so often and it is not comparable with professor position exept very special professorship in US.

Recognition that serving as dean for two terms should be sufficient in conjunction with the title of professor from the President of the Republic of Poland. During JZ's tenure, nominations were preceded by elections. Winning the nomination meant that the candidate had demonstrated his or her many talents, skills, and knowledge.

I don't know if JZ needs this article, but it, this article, is certainly needed by academics from European Union countries to understand the organization of science in other countries. This is the primary purpose of publishing this type of text on Wikipedia. It does not serve as a showcase for the person we are writing about.

KSz at OWPTM (talk) 14:15, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@KSz at OWPTM Often the "Who's who" publications are low quality, soliciting entries the authors have to pay for and write them themselves (effectively a vanity press, see also Who's_Who#Scams). This is not always the case, but often enough that we don't consider "Who's who" works significant sources of notability unless you can show they received positive reviews or are published by publishers known to be academic, not vanity. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:19, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Mathscinet, Zbmath, and Math Genealogy entries are completely routine; anyone with a PhD and a published paper has similar. I do not take full professor as the same as a named professor. Indeed, WP:NPROF C5 is most useful as a proxy for WP:NPROF C1, and in the absence of any evidence for this kind of intellectual impact, I don't think this case flies. Dean is short of WP:NPROF C6. I don't think this passes the "average professor test". Russ Woodroofe (talk) 13:04, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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