Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jagraj Singh

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jagraj Singh

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The subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The current sources are either passing mentions, or interviews and some of them are not even reliable. He received the Point of Light Award but since that is not the highest civilian award in the United Kingdom it can not be counted toward notability. A Google News search for "Jagraj Singh" returned 99 results but only a few (5-6) are about the subject in question and they are either passing mentions or are not reliable. Also, please note that a draft on the same subject was declined in October 2022. So, since there is no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. 113.193.45.185 (talk) 05:03, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:GNG:

The BBC did a documentary about him: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dv1b
That documentary was featured in The Times: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whats-on-tv-tuesday-gmswqfdc0
His work also made the news: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/education-sikhism-takes-focus-they-called-me-osama-documentary-n582821

CT55555(talk) 05:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CT55555: How does the documentary establish the notability of the subject? The documentary was not on him or his life but other issues where he was the one to narrate I guess. 113.193.45.185 (talk) 05:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems very clear to me that the BBC documentary was indeed about him. CT55555(talk) 05:24, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No it wasn't, if you read the article carefully the documentary was not on his life but about issues in the United Kingdom, also your 3rd link reads "The film was made by Maneetpaul Singh Chawla with funding from the University of Connecticut's IDEA grant program." it wasn't made by the subject of this nomination (so can't call his work) and his name is mentioned on twice in the article. 113.193.45.185 (talk) 05:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1 above is a BBC documentary about his work. 3 above is a different documentary made by Maneetpaul Singh Chawla that discusses Jagraj Singh's work. Your comments are not refuting anything that I am saying. Please stop. CT55555(talk) 05:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously? can you provide a single source for your each claim that says the documentary was on his life or work? In the NBC source reads "The film features British YouTuber Jagraj Singh conducting street interviews to see what people know about the Sikh religion". Please provide sources to support your claims just saying "seems very clear to me" doesn't make any sense sorry. 113.193.45.185 (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dv1b CT55555(talk) 05:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and is there any source for the other documentary? 113.193.45.185 (talk) 05:45, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am unwilling to continue explaining my keep rationale to you. I am confident that I have provided enough justification for the closing admin to assess the strength of my argument. CT55555(talk) 05:47, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Sikhism, United Kingdom, and England. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 06:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi All, I agree with @CT55555 . I have included all information in the talk page please see Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Jagraj Singh. As for sources, they are more than reliable. Further to add, there are official government sources used as well. This shouldn't even be up for discussion in the first place. Renamed user ds09j342589juvm823r098jae4f (talk) 09:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Descriptions of the award he won and enough other coverage for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 12:51, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the references in the article show significant coverage in reliable sources so that WP:GNG is passed. Of particular note is a BBC documentary devoted to him and his legacy Atlantic306 (talk) 21:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The sources in the article show notability enough to meet WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. The draft that was declined (Draft:Jagraj Singh) is a very different article sourcing-wise and was declined for the lack of sourcing in that draft. This article does not have that issue. The draft is not and should not be a factor in the deletion of this article, which is worlds better in terms of sourcing. - Aoidh (talk) 20:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per the signficant coverage in reliable sources, therefore it passes WP:GNG. Sarrail (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This is WP:SNOW keep territory, I recommend the nominator withdraw. CT55555(talk) 23:42, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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