Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hereditary Villa

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The result was draftify‎. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 16:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hereditary Villa

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The film doesn't meet WP:NFILM. No any WP:RS also. Claggy (talk) 14:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Claggy (talk) 14:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Claggy: I'm a bit confused, as the article has already cited seven sources from Mehr News Agency, Hamshahri, Borna News Agency [fa], Iranian Labour News Agency, Pupils Association News Agency, and Namnamak News. None of these seem like inherently unreliable sources. So I was wondering perhaps your concern is more along the lines of WP:TOOSOON, given that the film has not yet been released? However, the sources from Borna, ILNA, and PANA do seem to back up the fact that the film has already entered production and finished filming. This would suggest the article has passed WP:NFF as well. Could you please provide some additional elaboration on the rationales behind the nomination? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Vote keep for the time being, as I don't find any critical problems with this article that would lead to a deletion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prince of Erebor Hi, The Persian-language news agencies inside Iran that you mentioned are generally not valid even in Persian Wikipedia. This article doesn't meet any of the WP:NFILM and WP:GNG criteria. I don't see any WP:RS here. Claggy (talk) 00:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Claggy: Hi Claggy, thanks for explaining! I can't read Persian and didn't see the above sources listed at the Persian Wikipedia's List of Perennial sources, so I will trust Claggy in good faith. If the Persian sources from news agencies currently in the article are considered unreliable, no RS are presented to back this unreleased film, so I guess it fails NFILM and it is WP:TOOSOON. A redirect to a major creator at this point seems more appropiate. I second Mushy Yank's proposal and change my vote to Redirect to Nima Hashemi. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 02:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prince of Erebor Actually the director also doesn't pass WP:GNG. Him article has been deleted 3 times in Persian Wikipedia. Claggy (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Took a look at the director's article, which was also heavily based on Iranian news agency sources (eg, Mehr, Borna, Young Journalists Club), and was accordingly deemed unreliable on the fawiki. Since the proposed redirect destination is most likely to face deletion (if not, ATD), while this film does actually receive a certain degree of media coverage and has an imminent release date, I agree that it would be more reasonable to Draftify the article for now. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 09:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Nima Hashemi: until further development is clear maybe. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the page for the director has also been taken to Afd (same nom) since my !vote. So DRAFTIFY for now -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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