Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hello Beautiful

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ff m 01:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Beautiful

This article was speedily deleted a number of times in the past for being non-notable and POV. Recently, User:Eastmain tried to make the article decent for Wikipedia, but I still feel it's non-notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Instead of speedying it again, I have put it up for AFD so a broader consensus can be reached. CyberGhostface (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following article for the same reasons, plus WP:COI.

Soundtrack for Scenario (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - added. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both: Neither article meets the criteria for notability at WP:BAND. The awards claimed in both articles fail WP:V and are not "major music competitions". --JD554 (talk) 18:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm the fool that created this mess in the first place. Last week, Soundtrack for Scenario was up for deletion, because at the time, the band was red linked. I moved Eastmain's project page to userspace and asked for the album to be kept because the band, at the time, seemed notable to me. Now I realize I've just created a big mess, and would agree that deleting everything is a good idea here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The media references pass WP:MUSIC. --Eastmain (talk) 18:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This band doesn't meet the conventional criteria of WP:MUSIC for being an important band: no national tours or well-known awards, and they are not issued by a major label. The only way they could qualify is if their press coverage puts them over the bar. I don't see the listed references as showing importance. There is no full-length review of the music listed there by anybody who I recognize as being a reliable independent reviewer. EdJohnston (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I believe the band does meet WP:MUSIC. They have been the subject of multiple non-trivial independently published works including Chart (magazine). They were placed in heavy rotation on MuchMusic and regularly played on CFNY-FM. Their debut video peaked at second place on Much On Demand’s Daily Top 10. They are currently on a national tour.[1] The article doubtless needs improving and better sourcing but that can be done in time. DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Hello Beautiful and merge the other 2 into it. Just passes WP:BAND based on coverage already identified in the article and these: [2], [3], [4], and current national tour appears to be verifiable.--Michig (talk) 21:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Excellent rescue job here, and for a Canadian band at that (no small task, that). Chubbles (talk) 21:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. In need of expansion though. Tezkag72 (talk) 03:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.