Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Control paradox
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't show notability, no refs. I looked around and found all kinds of different things people are calling "control paradox", none of which have anything to do with this. Conical Johnson (talk) 04:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete WP:OR. Drawn Some (talk) 04:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I would say delete here, but Drawn some, does you mean neologism? The Junk Police (reports|works) 05:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I mean it is original research, someone's personal discussion of a topic unaccompanied by any references. It may also be a neologism as the nominator described but I didn't explore that. Drawn Some (talk) 05:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I agree, this is original research: musings on autonomy and free will. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete "The control paradox states that a conscious, living human being will always be controlled either by others or by himself." That's supposed to be a paradox? Is there some contradiction in there that I'm missing? Mandsford (talk) 20:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I think the "paradox" here is attempting to make an analogy with the barber paradox. (If every man shaves, and the barber shaves every man who doesn't shave himself, who shaves the barber?) = Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 05:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- But the barber paradox had a set-up; every guy in town has to be clean shaven, there's only barber in town, and anyone who doesn't shave himself has to go to that barber. If he shaves himself, he's breaking his own rule. If he doesn't get a shave, he's breaking the rule. Maybe this is an attempt to imitate the barber paradox, substituting "control" for "shave", but without other conditions. But a true paradox isn't "choose this or that"; it's more like "either choice will be the wrong choice". Maybe someone will come up with the "Wikipedia mass nomination paradox". Mandsford (talk) 13:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't say it was a good analogy, just observing that the barber paradox is based on a syntactically similar statement. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- But the barber paradox had a set-up; every guy in town has to be clean shaven, there's only barber in town, and anyone who doesn't shave himself has to go to that barber. If he shaves himself, he's breaking his own rule. If he doesn't get a shave, he's breaking the rule. Maybe this is an attempt to imitate the barber paradox, substituting "control" for "shave", but without other conditions. But a true paradox isn't "choose this or that"; it's more like "either choice will be the wrong choice". Maybe someone will come up with the "Wikipedia mass nomination paradox". Mandsford (talk) 13:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as lacking notability and refs per nom, and WP:OR as also noted above. Nothing more to say. Bearian (talk) 19:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. GBook search for "control paradox" "free will" [1] returns zero hits. Many of the philosopher Daniel Dennett's writings are about control, and as a philosopher, he also explores many paradoxes, but a Gbook search for "Daniel Dennett" "control paradox" [2] also returns zero hits. The article is shallow, incoherent, and lends itself to OR concerns. Little is lost by loosing that little page. Power.corrupts (talk) 07:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.