Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Concordia Student Union

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The result was keep; notability established and nom withdrawn.--Kubigula (talk) 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concordia Student Union

~~Notability not claimed. No secondary sources. Seems like original research. SevernSevern (talk) 21:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)~~ I hereby withdraw my AFD based on the verifiable sources provided. There are problems with the content of the article, but they can be fixed. In spite of my withdrawal, non-admin User:Dustihowe was wrong to close this unilaterally. --SevernSevern (talk) 16:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep they are notable by the large number of students they represent. There isn't a rush or deadline to add sources. There seems to be some failure to discriminate between those students clubs that have no particular genereal interest, and the student organizations which represent what is in practice the major division of a university. GreenJoe 00:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "The Concordia Student Union has a tradition of hosting the biggest orientation in Canada and we plan to make this year’s was no different, but also the most fun and diverse." Source GreenJoe 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "This autumn Concordia student Chadi Marouf organized a petition to revoke Concordia's membership in the Federation étudiante universitaire du Québec (FEUQ). But the last thing Marouf expected was the Concordia Student Union (CSU) barring his efforts to bring the issue to a head in a student referendum during the upcoming Nov. 26-28 CSU by-elections." Source GreenJoe 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Student groups autonomous from the CSU sprang into action over the past few weeks, fighting against a proposal that would see their fee levies up for renewal every three years. Though the CSU agreed to put off any discussion until next year, Councillor Melanie Roach brought forward a motion on behalf of the concerned groups to guarantee notice be given before Council can make decisions affecting them." Source GreenJoe 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment First the number of students does not make it notable. While Wikipedia:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built is very true, you still have to prove the notability of the union. This can be done with secondary sources. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 00:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Unlike other student unions that I argued for deletion, this one appears to have significant 2ndary sourcing in TV and News independent of the university that covers the student unions' activities. It does need better referencing. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 04:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment considering the amount of militancy in the CSU, it doesn't appear as if the nominator checked before nominating, since the CSU has caused international diplomatic incidents, and bad taste announcements on the Dawson College shooting which made national news, and national news with several embezzlement scandals. 70.55.84.42 (talk) 07:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to general lack of notability. Secondary option is to merge to the university's page. Stifle (talk) 09:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- COmment Stifle, did you look at the sources provided in this AfD? In general, SUs are not notable and don't meet WP:ORG, but this one has been covered extensively and in non-local press for its work. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 11:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: Why aren't the sources in the article? Stifle (talk) 19:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - No idea, not an article I was working on. I don't think not in the article has anything to do with the notability of the topic. At any rate, nom has withdrawn but this will stay open because of your delete vote. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 17:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. —SevernSevern (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it's a good thing I did a ghit report before voting. This student union's actually notable (wow...) and should not be deleted. We do need someone to do some copyediting to make sure these ghits get placed into the article and cited properly. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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