Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Combustion Man
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Redirect per Ceyockey. Nothing encyclopedic to merge. BLACKKITE 21:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The article is essentially nothing but a plot summary. It lacks any reliable sources, it gives no context for those who don't know what the article is talking about, and lacks links to relevant pages. The article is also poorly formatted and has no external links to assist in giving information. More importantly, the article is about a fictional character who was originally going to be considered for inclusion on the page for the show's Major Secondary Characters but was rejected because they did not meet the criteria. Later, somebody attempted to include them in the page for Minor Recurring Characters but was instantly rejected because they clearly failed the page's very specific criteria. Somebody did not want the information deleted so they made the character their own page even though there was nowhere near enough information on the character and the character was not important enough to the show. Essentially, the character had their own page made just to save the information because the character was rejected from the relevant pages. There was no consensus on making it and it was clearly made based on somebody's personal desire for the information to stay instead of because of logical reasons and a consensus. The page should therefore be deleted. SkepticBanner (talk) 23:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to List of Avatar: The Last Airbender secondary recurring characters after a hefty trimming and copyedit. -- Whpq (talk) 12:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, or if anyone can do this, merge appropriately. Absolutely no context to the reader whatsoever.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 19:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The article can't be merged to List of Avatar: The Last Airbender secondary recurring characters because the character fails the criteria for inclusion there. Also, if we trimmed this article, what would be left? This character has no character, unlike every other character in the series we list. The only logical thing to do seems to be to delete the article because there would be literally nothing left if it were trimmed to meet the quality of other character pages. SkepticBanner (talk) 20:04, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with List of Avatar: The Last Airbender secondary recurring characters. Arogi Ho (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with List of Avatar: The Last Airbender major secondary characters, as Combustion Man has only appeared in one season.--Piemanmoo (talk) 22:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- We can't merge it into Major Secondary Characters because the consensus there is that he is not important enough to add at the moment. SkepticBanner (talk) 00:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is true since the article in question states that only characters that have been in more than one season are elgable to be listed there and he does not qualify. In short there is no exceptale place to merge this too. --67.71.78.191 (talk) 01:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- So it seems that at this point, merge is out of the question. And this article was never made with a consensus by the community. And it was made purely out of the desire to keep the information. Simply put, we don't have enough on this guy to give him his own article. My opinion on the matter based on the facts would be that delete is the best option, but what does everybody else think now that it seems that there is no place to merge the article to?SkepticBanner (talk) 03:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is true since the article in question states that only characters that have been in more than one season are elgable to be listed there and he does not qualify. In short there is no exceptale place to merge this too. --67.71.78.191 (talk) 01:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep People put up articles for deletion just for the heck of it, besides he is an important element to the ongoing plot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.181.210 (talk) 18:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem is that he does not have enough character nor plot importance to warrant his own page. There simply isn't enough material on him. Not even enough for Major Secondary, according to the consensus there. He has about as much material as a Minor Recurring Character, but due to his failing the criteria there, we can't put him there. I nominated this article for deletion because of a. The reasons why the article was made, namely purely to preserve rejected information b. The lack of material besides plot on him c. The lack of a significant amount of plot information d. The fact that he does not come near in terms of information nor importance to all the other characters with their own pages, and he would be better off on a character listing. Unfortunately, it seems there are no character listings he qualifies for. Finally, the article's quality is terrible and in order to meet the quality of other character pages, including Major Secondary, nearly all the information would have to be trimmed away. So no, I did not nominate this article for deletion just "for the heck of it" like you stated. I still feel that delete is the best option. SkepticBanner (talk) 23:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and Merge any nonduplicate information to the appropiate episode page that the character appeared in. As mentioned above, it does not look like this character is notable enough to have his own page, there are no pages that the character information can specifically be merged into. --Nn123645 (talk) 20:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think there is any nonduplicate information. Pretty much all of it is already covered elsewhere, as far as I am aware. So it seems the most likely fate for this article is deletion but we should know what the general consensus is come sometime during Christmas, as I believe that is when the discussion period is over (I'm still a bit unfamiliar with the deletion process but I think I have a good idea). After the debate is closed on Christmas, we should see a decision soon (right?). SkepticBanner (talk) 01:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect→List of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters#Book 3: Fire, tagging with {{R to list entry}}. This would be consistent with the status of other minor characters from this work. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: WikiProject American Animation has been informed of this ongoing discussion. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.