Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bi-Beast

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 18:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bi-Beast

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Non-notable fictional topic TTN (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 15:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: B. BOZ (talk) 16:58, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable comic book cruft._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:30, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Wp:imperfect and Wp:NOTNOTABLE. ~~Will look for sources for the character.~~Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 14:26, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: A reception section has been added. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 15:20, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15 & 16 are trivial mentions not worth including. #17 & #18 are hyper-focused "Top X" lists, which have little weight. #19 is another "Top X" list, but it's at least something. I'd say only #19 has any weight, but not much. TTN (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are not going to change my mind with your deletionist attitude. Still good sources and still keep is my favor. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 15:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Not a valid reason for deletion. Dimadick (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Hulk supporting characters. Not enough sourcing to support own article, but redirects are cheap, and there's basic info abut the target there. --Killer Moff- ill advisedly sticking his nose in since 2011 (talk) 16:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Articles like that list aren’t much better. I would say the Marvel Comics character page would be better if merged. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 16:46, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think this will have to be an agree to disagree, but I think a short description at a focused article is better than keeping the entire, plot heavy, unsourced article at an indiscriminate dump. I would vote delete, but I know that even if it were deleted it would be recreated as a redirect shortly thereafter anyway. --Killer Moff- ill advisedly sticking his nose in since 2011 (talk) 16:56, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Anything from outside the universe itself is far too lightweight to pass GNG. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Hulk supporting characters. When templates are discounted, Bi-Beast is only linked in the body of 20 articles. Of those, at least 10 are lists. Of the ten that link Bi-Beast inline, most are name drops like the one at Betty Ross. This doesn't meet my criteria for being notable within the fiction, but it's a valid search term and the list entries already exist. I believe this is the best target because the character is most relevant to the Hulk stories. Argento Surfer (talk) 17:47, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This discussion was mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bi-Beast, and some users suggested that it may not follow the rules of WP:CANVASS. Ultimate someone (talk) 23:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say project pages are fair game so long as the wording isn't explicitly canvasing for more keep/delete comments, or the poster isn't obviously trying to sway an already set consensus. TTN (talk) 23:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn’t intended as much. Also if it was canvas. I failed miserably lol. So no harm than foul. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 04:00, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, not the greatest, but I personally think the new reception adds enough to meet GNG. Interesting that it made so many different Top X articles. Never heard of him. -2pou (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable Hulk villain. Artw (talk) 04:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Let this page stay. I am agreeing with the claims by @Jhenderson777:, @Dimadick:, and @Artw:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.