Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/America's Next Top Model

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. obvious bad faith nomination. DGG ( talk ) 00:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

America's Next Top Model

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The enduring notability WP:NOTABLE is undetermined for this reality television contest, as a result it fails virtually all criteria for WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. This page seems to be little more than a promotional tool for the show and a personal agenda for fans. This is not a America's Next Top Model fan page. There are no reliable sources WP:IRS to show the validity of this "contest". Mississippistfan (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 May 10. Snotbot t • c » 23:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge highly selective merge of all to America's Next Top Model, seperate articles on each "cycle" is unnecessary and cannot meet notability guidelines. RadioFan (talk) 00:50, 11 May 2012 (UTC) This is not the AFD I !voted on since the season specific articles were removed from the nomination. I have no opinion on the remaining article.--RadioFan (talk) 00:04, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have commented out the "Prefixindex" as it was showing 10 misleading AfD discussions. Unscintillating (talk) 02:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Nominator has made a total of four edits to Wikipedia, two of which are AfD nominations. Unscintillating (talk) 02:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ There are major issues with the entire ANTM article space, but they shouldn't be dealt with through wholesale deletion. Also due to lack of edits, reads as a possible bad faith nomination. Nate • (chatter) 04:50, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Switch to Speedy Keep The posts brought up by Life of Riley in the nom for Cycle 18 make clear that nothing except an agenda push unrelated to ANTM was the reason for this nom. We don't need this AfD stretched out further or for this to be dragged into the MMA discussion. Nate • (chatter) 23:28, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep An obviously notable show that receives a huge amount of press coverage, with stories in everything from the New York Times to TMZ. Wikipedia:OUTCOMES says tv shows broadcast by various networks are usually kept, and this is no exception. Proposer either does not understand Wikipedia policies or is acting in bad faith. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:42, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable and well known television show. Stating that there are no reliable sources used for this article is completely false. Among other sources are the Huffington Post, TIME Magazine, and the Wall Street Journal. Chewbaccaaa (talk) 12:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep For reasons above. Surprised this was even put up for deletion. Have heard a lot about it and I'm in the UK... Mabalu (talk) 14:25, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep It's really a notable reality TV show compare to Survivor, The Amazing Race and American Idol. It has been barely a million viewers in every recent season of the show. I'll give a snow consensus to close this discussion. The nominator had a bad faith on nominating the article and has really a newcomer in this online encyclopedia. ApprenticeFan ^work 14:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As stated, fails requirements for WP:NOTABLE, violates what Wiki is not as a fan siteWP:NOT violates WP:SOAPas a promotional tool and has no realiable sources WP:RELIABLE. This show is a contest, making it an event but it fails WP:EVENT as well. There is virtually no reason for this page to exist if Wiki is not a fan site. Please discuss these matters on fan sites, fan forums, and other means outside of Wiki. Why can't fans of America's Top Model make their own wiki for this WP:fancruft? AugustWest1980 (talk) 14:38, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Snowball keep at this point. I think a case could be made for deleting or merging & redirecting many of the related articles - about the contestants, the individual seasons, etc. - to the main article, since many of them seem to have only primary sources, but, like it or not, the show itself is notable and the info is verifiable. I hate the way many TV show articles end up "fansite-y", too, but that's not a reason for deletion. Dawn Bard (talk) 14:42, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is clearly a pointy nomination. The notability of the TV show is unquestionable. Silver seren^C 23:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ANI discussion of nominations

For courtesy, a point out that these two nominations are being discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#WP:POINTy nominations of ANTM articles, though we could use some sensible discussion about this (I am not willing to be dragged into the MMA discussion at all). Nate • (chatter) 23:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.