User talk:StewyOnIsle

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Happy editing! JarrahTree 13:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Edward John Howells (March 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jeromeenriquez was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Jeromeenriquez (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, StewyOnIsle! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Jeromeenriquez (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I am very disappointed that the months of work and travel I spent on researching and writing and editing this draft is not deemed worthy of Wikipedia. The reasons given in the boiler plate notice are nonsensical. If official government documents and numerous cites from books and newspapers don't count as references, I cannot fathom what sources could. There are several Wiki links in the draft to other men who have similar bios. Do I need to write and title a book about this man first, and then reference the book? 66.27.127.233 (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... and I have been a Wikipedian and have edited since 2014. My previous ID was blocked or hacked and I have given up all attempts to recover it and so don't use "Rodonisle" but this new "Stewyonisle".

Cheers. StewyOnIsle (talk) 00:52, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From the pages you recommended: Notability?

"The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor"

Howells was awarded the Military Cross - Australia's 2nd highest medal at the time.

"The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field"

Howells was Mentioned in Dispatch by Winston Churchill, has the largest display in the Australian War Memorial Museum, lauded in Official Histories of WWI, Australian Engineers publications, and personal letters from knighted authors and general officers.

OR

"The person has an entry in a country's standard national ... "

Howells is listed in "Who's Who in Australia" numerous years

So, is he "notable?" StewyOnIsle (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Edward John Howells has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Edward John Howells. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 19:20, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Edward John Howells has been accepted

Edward John Howells, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. "Accepted" but not up on Wikipedia. The branches of the path(s) to having this person found on Wikipedia by using a search engine are less clear to me than ever. I carefully read the requirements to write a biographical wiki page and believe them to be more than satisfied, as quoted in my talk/help questions.

Months of researching and digging up references from reliable and independent sources - books, newspapers, journal, photos and records from the Australian government - even flying there to use their libaries and archives. Unless someone has already written a book about this person, I can't imagine what other references could be added.

And your link to "Start Class" only leaves me with less understanding of what is to be done, by me, other wikipedians, or editors to make this historically significant person able to be found by web searchers. Without believing Wiki's own instructions are to be used to judge a page worthiness of posting, I would be hard pressed to bother to submit the other biographical pages I am working on. StewyOnIsle (talk) 17:35, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]