User talk:Reception123/Archive 3
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Closing deletion discussions
[change source]Receptie, if you are going to take it upon yourself to close deletion discussions, please do the whole job and take the tag off of the articles as well. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. Sorry, I forgot. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 08:03, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- That being said, you really shouldn't be closing them. Unlike en we don't need non-admin closures here. -DJSasso (talk) 11:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. I saw BlueGoblin7 close a few so I thought that was a usual thing. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Vandalism in progress
[change source]I notice that you sometimes clear the entries at WP:Vandalism in progress. If you must do that (and I really think it's for the admins to do), then please be sure to wait enough time for interested parties to see the action that was taken or not taken. IMO, that would be at least several hours. Other admins might have other ideas about how long to wait. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sure we agreed 24 hours a few years back. Goblin 19:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Yottie!
- Ok, I get it. From now on I will wait 24 hours approximately. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:28, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I generally don't mind non-admins closing admin related duties (if its done right), but VIP should really be left to admins. Even if the vandal has stopped it could still be blocked etc. Admins should really be the ones to update that page imo. Kennedy (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, so from now on if more than 30 hours pass and admins don't clear WP:VIP than I will. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 08:41, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- That's... not really what I said. I'm generally opposed to non-admins updating VIP unless its to report someone. So increasing the time to 30 hours makes no difference. I'll see what other admins think. Kennedy (talk) 08:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, so from now on if more than 30 hours pass and admins don't clear WP:VIP than I will. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 08:41, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I generally don't mind non-admins closing admin related duties (if its done right), but VIP should really be left to admins. Even if the vandal has stopped it could still be blocked etc. Admins should really be the ones to update that page imo. Kennedy (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I get it. From now on I will wait 24 hours approximately. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:28, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, until other admins make up their mind I will not do anything (except tell users when the vandal has been blocked and by who) to WP:VIP except reporting users. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 08:51, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Kennedy. Admins might have reasons for leaving the information there. Even if they don't, it's not up to the non-admin editors to do the admins' job. It's not like leaving things there causes a particular problem.
Receptie: it's not that the admins haven't "made up their mind". It's more like we expect that the non-admin editors will not do the admins' job. It can take a while for us to notice that someone may be overstepping their bounds and say something, but that doesn't mean we're OK with it. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Kennedy. Admins might have reasons for leaving the information there. Even if they don't, it's not up to the non-admin editors to do the admins' job. It's not like leaving things there causes a particular problem.
- Also, please don't post that an action has been taken, either. Please leave that to the admins also. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
(change conflict) ::::::::Ok. From now on (9:00 UTC 10/07/2013) I will only report users and not do more to the WP:VIP page. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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(change conflict) (change conflict) (change conflict) Most cases on VIP are straightforward vandalism. I wouldn't mind these being removed by a non-administrator. However, for other reports where an administrator has added {{VIP}}, I would rather that you not touch them for now because such reports require discretion from an administrator or veteran editor prior to removal. This remains my opinion - others may think otherwise. That said, I think I should emphasise that the wiki will not blow up just because VIP has been left unmaintained for merely a few hours. Chenzw Talk 09:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I can't believe such a big deal is being made over such an insignificant matter. The entries on VIP will be removed anyway, and it makes absolutely no difference whose name shows up in the history (but if an entry is marked with {{VIP}} it should probably be left). If this is the type of thing editors are thinking about, it's no wonder our article quality is so low. -Mh7kJ (talk) 12:13, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
warning users II
[change source]RE your warning to user 94, who blanked the Admin noticeboard: although in general warnings should go step by step from bottom to top, cases of clear vandalism should be handled proportionately. Thus, at the extreme, a really obscene and racist rant might warrant an immediate indef ban. Blanking one of our central pages is fairly serious. It was not any kind of a trial, and IMO was clear vandalism. I would think L2 or maybe even L3. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I thought that as well only thought that it was the wrong thing to do. From now on I will do like you said. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
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Wikidata weekly summary #66
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- Discussions
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- A personal note and secret from Denny Vrandečić (WMDE)
- Denny's map gets an upgrade, take a look at the amazing visualisations!
- Browser search plugins for wikidata have beeen created.
- Byrial's database reports have been updated from the 2013-07-10 dump! These can be seen here.
- Development
- Support for badges in the process of being added to the DataModel.
- Created further UI mockups for Wikidata Mobile.
- Front end performance improvements in a few areas (including multiple edits on pages).
- The bug in wbeditentity where aliases were removed has been fixed.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: eMedicine (P673), a list of (P674), Google Books identifier (P675), lyrics by (P676), ÚSOP code (P677), incertae sedis (P678), ZVG number (P679), molecular function (P680), cell component (P681), biological process (P682), ChEBI ID (P683), ortholog (P684), NCBI Taxonomy ID (P685), Gene Ontology ID (P686)
- Open Tasks for You
- Update, expand and translate one of the help pages to make it easier for newcomers
- Update and expand Wikidata:Contribute to provide more information for newcomers
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property
- Hack on one of these
Wikt links
[change source]Hi Reception. Tried to catch you on IRC, but it looks like you're offline. I noticed that you're getting in to maintenance work a bit, which is fantastic. I did it constantly for about a year, but I'm taking a bit of a break at the moment. One thing for broken Wiktionary links you might need to know is that the {{broken wikt link}} template is just to make a link appear red (in the hope that other editors see it and decide to create the entry). It's the same as any other red link on the wiki, so they're good to leave in place. Just mentioning it because I saw you make these edits, but the only need to remove the template is when the entries have been created. The templates were added several years ago so there will be quite a few of them that need removing. Osiris (talk) 06:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for taking the time to tell me. As I said on my userpage I will be taking a small Wikibreak (that's why I wasn't on IRC). I will continue with maintenance taks next week. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 10:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Great! If you need any help with any of it just let me know.
Osiris (talk) 10:11, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Great! If you need any help with any of it just let me know.
Thanks for the new article about this lake. It appears to be based on the article on English Wikipedia. It is OK to do that, but you must give attribution. Please add an appropriate attribution template to the article's talk page to indicate the specific version of the enwiki article that was used. For some information on how to do that, see User:Auntof6/How to#Find the permanent link for a page on English Wikipedia. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I will do that from now on. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
RE: Revert/Undo
[change source]Thanks, but reverting vandalism without Twinkle isn't too difficult, and I don't stumble upon vandalism often. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I was just telling you that so you know. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 16:08, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #67
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- Discussions
- A request for comment for exclusion criteria in wikipedia namespace.
- Images for the Main Page proposed and discussed on project chat.
- Discussion on Wikivoyage notability and changes to WD:N.
- Request for comment on sockpuppetry guidelines closes.
- Events/Press
- Watson has received the Feigenbaum Prize which has been donated to Wikimedia and Wikidata.
- Did you know?
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The fourteen-millionth item, about Huangjue, a village in China, is created.
- 239 Million language links removed from the Wikipedias, almost 5GB of text. (2012 vs 2013).
- Saskia joins the Wikidata team to analyze the proposals for Wiktionary in Wikidata.
- Wikivoyage deployment planned to start July 23rd, see the coordination page here.
- Development
- Wmf11 has been deployed to test.wikidata.org!
- Wikidata is moving from a Squid to a Varnish cache system!
- Search ranking has been improved ready for the next deployment where Wikivoyage support will also be added.
- Optional title normalization added to 'wbgetentities'
- Fixed broken XML result for wbeditentity.
- Fixed broken link to anchor in sitelinks section.
- Templates no longer parsed in labels.
- Technical documentation improved for Ask and WikibaseQueryEngine.
- Work started on EntitiesByPropertyValue API module.
- Work on ChangeOps and API module edit summaries.
- Open Tasks for You
- Update, expand and translate one of the help pages to make it easier for newcomers
- Update and expand Wikidata:Contribute to provide more information for newcomers
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property
- Hack on one of these
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The page you wrote, Chalet Robinson, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. Auntof6 (talk) 20:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, Reception. What makes Chalet Robinson notable enough for its own article? Please add some references and something about why it is notable. If it isn't notable, perhaps you can cover it briefly under Bois de la Cambre instead? Osiris (talk) 20:08, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry for creating this not very notable article. I will make a section in Bois de la Cambre. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Overdue award
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Here is your new book, and you are so close to getting your next one. Good work on the new Japanese pages, these are always a challenge, but we need to encourage the new editors rather than just deleting. Thanks for your efforts.--Peterdownunder (talk) 07:57, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for this award Peterdownuder! Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 14:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #68
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- Discussions
- New UI Mockup suggested for Wikidata Mobile. Please give feedback.
- Events/Press
- Next office hour on August 26
- upcoming: COSCUP
- upcoming: Wikimania (including hackathon)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Wikidata learns to travel - language link support for Wikivoyage has been enabled and it was concluded that Wikivoyagers are pretty awesome
- There is now a gadget you can use to see a map of a geocoordinate on Wikidata
- Picture of the week could use some more input
- Top 20 items on Wikidata that are covered in a lot of Wikipedias? Here you go.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Dodis (P701), encoded by (P702), found in taxon (P703), Ensembl Transcript ID (P704), Ensembl Protein ID (P705), located on terrain feature (P706), Satellite bus (P707), diocese (P708), Historic Scotland ID (P709), participant (P710), Strunz 8 (P711), Strunz 9 (P712), Strunz 10 (P713), Dana 8th edition (P714), Drugbank ID (P715), JPL Small-Body Database identifier (P716), Minor Planet Center observatory code (P717), Canmore ID (P718), Notable Incident (P719)
- Newest task forces: Global Economic Map task force
- Development
- When a page is moved on Wikipedia or Wikivoyage the link on Wikidata is now updated (bugzilla:36729)
- Ranking of the search results has been improved
- Worked on URL data type
- Added coveralls.io support for most of our components (test coverage)
- Fixed some minor bugs related to site-links editing
- Fixed bugzilla:52023, where multiple anon warning bubbles are displayed at once
- Worked on SpamBlacklist to filter URL values in Wikibase
- Improved handling of corrupt data from the database
- Made tests more reliable
- Made regular undo via the API work with Wikibase
- Worked on Time value formatter
- Error handling for ByPropertyValue API module
- Work on implementing QueryEntity
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
Rename confirm
[change source]I confirm that I am user Reception123 or Receptie123. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 10:26, 30 July 2013 (UTC) ....and that I would like a rename on the German Wikipedia. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 13:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #69
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- Discussions
- Request for comment on defining CheckUsers.
- Request for comment on class ⇄ instance relationship in Wikidata
- The d:Wikidata:Global Economic Map task force is starting its property list. Please go there to propose important properties about economics for countries, regions or companies.
- Events/Press
- Next office hour on August 26
- COSCUP this weekend, Taipei (August 3-4, 2013)
- Wikimania is nearly here!, Hong Kong (August 7-11, 2013)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- The list of interwiki links has been updated with more infomation and now also includes wikivoyage!
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: removed feature, introduced feature, Parent company
- Newest task forces: Global Economic Map task force
- Development
- Custom edit-summaries added for the majority of API modules
- Started working on implementation for ordering qualifiers in the JavaScript user interface
- ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue, wbcreateclaim, wbremoveclaims and refactoring of wbremoveclaim
- Fix handling of '0' value in API response
- Solved bugs related to copyright notice
- Some minor UI speed improvements
- EditEntity refactored
- Test cases improved
- Further work on URLs
- Work on implementing QueryEntity
- Open Tasks for You
- Add some data about Hong Kong and related things. Denny promises nice visualizations ;-)
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
The kind of thing we want you to stop doing
[change source]This is another example of the kind of administrative task that you should not be concerning yourself with. The unsigned message was not left on your talk page, and the message did not concern you. I'm concerned that you keep doing more of this type of thing even after being told not to. I'm starting to think your edits might need to be monitored to watch for more of this kind of thing. What can we do to make you understand this? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the best way would be to make a list of administrative tasks that I shouldn't do. I will try to stop. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 06:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Basically everything that doesn't involve writing on an article or otherwise improving content. Or asking for help on improving an article. Literally the only thing you should be doing is something that involves improving articles or categories or templates. Basically if it involves any sort of admin request page or a talk page where its not a discussion you are involved in then you should probably just let it be. -DJSasso (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the best way would be to make a list of administrative tasks that I shouldn't do. I will try to stop. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 06:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 17:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- When you say "Ok", what do you mean exactly? This edit is another example of what you need to stop doing. Not only did that discussion not involve you, but you spoke on behalf of another user. You had been doing so well, please don't go back to what you had been doing. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- I am very sorry if I have done something wrong. I thought that talk page stalking was something normal to do (not only for admins). Isn't it? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 14:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- This isn't related to whether you're an administrator. Talk page stalking doesn't mean commenting on user talk pages, it means watching them. Anyone can watch any page they want, including user talk pages. With this post, a user asked Chenzw why he deleted some pages, and you replied with your guess as to why. That is not helpful, because only Chenzw knows why s/he deleted the pages. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, so talk page stalkers can only interfere when the user isn't asking the user but asking generally, right? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 07:58, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to take so long to reply. If it's actually interfering (which means involving yourself in something that isn't your business), you probably shouldn't do it at all. If a question is asked on a user talk page, the person is asking that user, not asking generally. If you have something constructive to contribute, then it might be OK to jump in if it's something that needs input from outside parties. For example, if the discussion isn't taking into account something helpful or important that only you know. Consider, though, that if someone wanted input from other people, they could post at Simple Talk or somewhere else instead of on a user talk page. Most conversations on user talk pages aren't meant to be free-for-all discussions.
- This is a case of needing to learn the "rules" (although this is really etiquette, not rules) before you can break them. Some of the things we've called you on aren't really that bad, but they're part of a pattern that is bad. Etiquette can be hard to learn. I've been trying to think of a way to help you. The only thing I've come up with is to have you ask an experienced editor if they think it would be OK before you jump into a conversation. I'm not sure either you or other editors here would want to do that, though, so please don't start doing it unless a specific, experienced editor has agreed to help you that way. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I get it. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 07:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 17:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)