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The Signpost: 17 December 2012

Seven days after the close of voting, the results of the recent Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) elections have been announced by two of the four stewards overseeing the election, Mardetanha and Pundit. Of the 21 candidates, 13 managed to gain positive support-to-oppose ratios, and the top eight will be appointed to two-year terms on the committee by Jimbo Wales, exercising one of his traditional responsibilities.
In the past year, we've tried to expand our horizons by looking at how WikiProjects work in other languages of Wikipedia. Following in the footsteps of our previously interviewed Czech and French projects, we visited the German Wikipedia to explore WikiProjekt Computerspiel (WikiProject Computer Games). The project dates back to November 2004 and has become the back-end of the Computer Games Portal, which covers all video games regardless of platform. Editors writing about computer games at the German Wikipedia deal with unique cultural and legal challenges, ranging from a lack of fair use precedents to the limited availability of games deemed harmful for youths to strong standards for the inclusion of material on the German Wikipedia.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include ...
This week's big story on the English Wikipedia is obviously the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting (which, by the time you read this, may be renamed 2012 Connecticut school shooting). Quickly created and nominated for deletion not once but twice, and both times speedily kept, the article saw the expected flurry of edits (a look at the history suggests an average of at least one a minute over the first day and a half) and more than half a million page views on the first full day.
Four articles, three lists, and five images were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week, including a picture of a three-week old donkey (also known as an 'ass').
MediaWiki users (including Wikimedians) can now organise themselves into groups, receiving recognition and support-in-kind from the Wikimedia Foundation. The project, backed by new Wikimedia technical contributor coordinator Quim Gil, has seen five proposals lodged in its first week of operation. The idea of MediaWiki groups mimics that of Wikimedia User Groups.

Fixing dashed/hyphens

Just saw this mentioned, but I haven't used it myself: User talk:GregU/dashes.js

Thanks Sturm, nice one. Works a treat. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012

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The Signpost: 24 December 2012

As part of its new focus on core responsibilities, the Wikimedia Foundation is reforming its grant schemes so that they are more accessible to individual volunteers. The community is invited to look at proposals for a new scheme—for now called Individual engagement grants (IEGs)—which is due to kick off on January 15. On Meta, the community is once again debating the two new offline participation models—user groups (open membership groups designed to be easy to form) and thematic organizations (incorporated non-profits representing the Wikimedia movement and supporting work on a specific theme within or across countries). In a consultation process on Meta that will last until January 15, the community will be discussing WMF proposals for a new guideline on conflicts of interests concerning Wikimedia resources. The draft covers COI issues for both volunteers and organizations across the movement.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject A Song of Ice and Fire, which focuses on the eponymous series of high fantasy literature, the television series Game of Thrones, and related works by George R. R. Martin. The project was started in July 2006 and has grown to include 11 Good Articles maintained by a small yet enthusiastic band of editors.
Seven articles and two lists were promoted to 'featured' status this week, including List of battlecruisers. The article covers all of the battlecruisers—which were a type of warship similar in size to a battleship but with several defining characteristics—ever planned or constructed. The last British battlecruiser built, HMS Hood, is pictured at right.
Efforts were stepped up this week to sow a feeling of trust between the major parties with an interest in the future of the Toolserver. The tool- and bot-hosting server – more accurately servers – are currently operated by German chapter, Wikimedia Germany, with assistance from the Foundation and numerous volunteers, including long-time system administrator Daniel Baur (more commonly known by his pseudonym DaB). However, those parties have more recently failed to see eye-to-eye on the trajectory for the Toolserver, which is scheduled to be replaced by Wikimedia Labs in late 2013, with increasing concern about the tone of discussions.

Have you thought of this?

I thought to post at your talk page instead of the recently infobox-contested talk page to bring up an idea (which you might have as well have already tried - I simply did not read through the massive talk over there). How about using {{Infobox settlement}} instead? Its documentation says it's suitable for anything below country-level (in fact articles such as Požega-Slavonia County use that too), so I thought to present you with that possible solution without attracting further responses right away.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm going to start working on an expanded article in user space and will use it there to see what issues might arise. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 21:24, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Hungarian occupation of Bačka and Baranja

I'm glad to infrom you that I have decided to promote your GA nomination of the Hungarian occupation of Bačka and Baranja article. --Wüstenfuchs 12:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much, considering the disruption that went on. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 12:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations!

 The Military history A-Class medal 
On behalf of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, I'm pleased to award you the A-Class medal for your work on the Pavle Đurišić, 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) and Dobroslav Jevđević articles, which were promoted to A-Class between July and December of this year. Kirill [talk] 01:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to all the coordinators, particularly those that helped me with reviews and suggestions, as well as challenging my thinking on 13th SS Division. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations

The WikiProject Barnstar
I am delighted to present you with this WikiProject Barnstar in recognition of your extensive contributions to the Military history WikiProject, as evidenced by your being nominated for the 2012 "Military historian of the year" award. We're grateful for your efforts, and look forward to seeing more of your excellent work in the coming year! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Ian! I was very surprised to be in such company. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:07, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Plots and references

Thanks for all the good work you've been doing with the MilHist assessments. Just a heads up (although I'm not arguing with the C you gave Serangan Fajar... that's a lot more generous than I was): film, TV episode, and novel plot summaries do not need to be referenced with footnotes, as it is assumed that they are referenced to the work itself. You can check with pretty much any FA on a novel or film, including Ruma Maida, ?, Manhunter, and Mereka Bilang, Saya Monyet (off the top of my head). Lost films like Terang Boelan need references because verifiability is impossible otherwise. Just so you know. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I'll keep it in mind. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:39, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 December 2012

In the impersonal, detached Colosseum that is Wikipedia, people find it much easier to put their thumbs down. As such, many people active in the Wikimedia movement have witnessed a precipitous decline in civil discourse. This is far from a new trend, yet many people would agree that it all seemed somehow worse in 2012.
A recent, poorly researched and poorly written story in the Register highlighted the perceived "cash rich" status of the Wikimedia movement. ... The Telegraph and Daily Dot, among others, have alleged that there are multiple links between the WMF, Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales, and Kazakhstan's government, which is, for all intents and purposes, a one-party non-democratic state.
On 27 December the Wikimedia Foundation announced the conclusion of their ninth annual fundraiser, which attracted more than 1.2 million donors. The appeal reached its goal of US$25 million, even though fundraising banners ran for only nine days.
In the first of two features, the Signpost this week looks back on 2012, a year when developers finally made inroads into three issues that had been put off for far too long (the need for editors to learn wiki-markup, the lack of a proper template language and the centralisation of data) but left all three projects far from finished.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include ...
Brion Vibber has been a Wikipedia editor for nearly 11 years and was the first person officially hired to work for the Wikimedia Foundation. He was instrumental in early development of the MediaWiki software and is now the lead software architect for the foundation's mobile development team.
At the beginning of the year, we began a series of interviews with editors who have worked hard to combat systemic bias through the creation of featured content; although we haven't seen six installments yet, we've also had some delightful interviews with people who write articles on some of our most core topics. Now, as we close the year, I would like to present some of my own musings on the state of featured content—especially as it pertains to systemic bias and core topics.
This week, we're celebrating the New Year from Times Square by interviewing WikiProject New York City. Since December 2004, WikiProject NYC has had the difficult task of maintaining articles about the largest city in the United States, many of which are also among the the most viewed articles on Wikipedia. The project is home to 22 Featured Articles, 7 Featured Lists, 32 pieces of Featured Media, and a lengthy list of Did You Know? entries.
Northeastern University researcher Brian Keegan analyzed the gathering of hundreds of Wikipedians to cover the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy. ... A First Monday article reviews several aspects of the Wikipedia participation in the 18 January 2012, protests against SOPA and PIPA legislation in the USA. The paper focuses on the question of legitimacy, looking at how the Wikipedia community arrived at the decision to participate in those protests.

Congratulations

2012 "Military history newcomer of the Year"
By order of the Members of the Military History WikiProject, for I award you this Golden Wiki in recognition of placing first in the 2012 Military history newcomer of the year.   AustralianRupert (talk) 08:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much, quite a humbling experience I must say, looking at the work of the other nominees. My thanks to the coordinators and every editor that contributes to the project! Straight to the (virtual) pool room...[1] Regards to all, and merry new year! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 09:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, Peacemaker! Well-deserved, in my opinion. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:06, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Ed! I think the award is a great innovation for the project which will encourage new MILHIST editors. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 20:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations from me as well Nick-D (talk) 10:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Nick! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Belated congrats, and if patriotism be the last refuge of a scoundrel, then a scoundrel I am as I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pleased to see this inaugural award and MHOTY being taken out by fellow Australians... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, fellow scoundrel! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 00:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year from Aotearoa!!

Talk:Belgian Army#Requested move - would you kindly consider providing some input at this RM? Buckshot06 (talk) 02:29, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. Happy New Year yourself! Bloody heatwave here at the moment... Peacemaker67 (send... over) 05:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 07 January 2013

Meta is the wiki that has coordinated a wide range of cross-project Wikimedia activities, such as the activities of stewards, the archiving of chapter reports, and WMF trustee elections. The project has long been an out-of-the-way corner for technocratic working groups, unaccountable mandarins, and in-house bureaucratic proceedings. Largely ignored by the editing communities of projects such as Wikipedia and organizations that serve them, Meta has evolved into a huge and relatively disorganized repository, where the few archivists running it also happen to be the main authors of some of its key documents. While Meta is well-designed for supporting the librarians and mandarins who stride along its corridors, visitors tend to find the site impenetrable—or so many people have argued over the past decade. This impenetrability runs counter to Meta's increasingly central role in the Wikimedia movement.
The dawning of a new year offers both a fresh slate and an opportunity to revisit our previous adventures. 2012 marked the fifth anniversary of the WikiProject Report and was the column's most productive year with 52 articles published. In addition to sharing the experiences of Wikipedia's many active projects, we expanded our scope to highlight unique projects from other languages of Wikipedia, and tracked down all of the former editors-in-chief of the Signpost for an introspective interview ... While last year's "Summer Sports Series" may have drawn yawns from some readers, a special report on "Neglected Geography" elicited more comments than any previous issue of the Report. Following in the footsteps of our past three recaps, we'll spend this week looking back at the trials and tribulations of the WikiProjects we encountered in 2012. Where are they now?
The past 12 months have seen a multitude of issues and events in the Wikimedia foundation, the movement at large, and the English Wikipedia. The movement, now in its second decade, is growing apace in its international reach, cultural and linguistic diversity, technical development, and financial complexity; and many factors have combined to produce what has in many ways been the biggest, most dynamic year in the movement's history. Looking back at 2012, we faced a difficult task in doing justice to all of the notable events in a single article; so the Signpost has selected just a few examples from outside the anglosphere, from the English Wikipedia, and from the Wikimedia Foundation, rather than attempting to cover every detail that happened.
Over the past year, 963 pieces of featured content were promoted. The most active of the featured content programs was featured article candidates (FAC), which promoted an average of 31 articles a month. This was followed by featured picture candidates (FPC; 28 a month). Coming in third was featured list candidates (FLC; 20 a month). Featured topic and featured portal candidates remained sluggish, each promoting fewer than 20 items over the year.
Following on from last week's reflections on 2012, this week the Technology report looks ahead to 2013, a year that will almost certainly be dominated by the juggernauts of Wikidata, Lua and the Visual Editor.

Sources

Could you check if your sources mention this subject?--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 23:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, not a thing I'm afraid. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 00:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Milhist

Hi, your trouble is that I moved the pages to have a hyphen in them, per WP:NC-SHIPS. Moving the review pages would solve the issue. Sorry for the confusion :/ Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

nemo problemo. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 05:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
did that, doesn't appear to have fixed it though. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 06:12, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't think old peer reviews show up in the template... they don't at Talk:USS Nevada (BB-36) at least. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Kirill recently did something to the template re: peer reviews to de-activate the tag problem they were causing. I don't think they are the problem now, but I know that some fields screw it up if they are out of the order given in the template. eg A-class= if it is not in the right spot. I might have to call on Kirill again. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 09:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

October to December 2012 Milhist Peer, A-class and FAC reviews

The Content Review Medal of Merit  
By order of the Military History WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted work on the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article Candidate reviews for the period Oct–Dec 2012, I am delighted to award you this Content Review Medal. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:11, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Jolly good! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 10:24, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

MilHist Monthly Contest

Just saw that you happen to do some work on the Contest page, and I thought I'd ask a quick question. Are the scores cumulative, or is each score a total score? What I mean is this: if I have an article that is B-Class on Jan 1, and in January, I obtained A-Class and GA-Class, should I score myself 15 or 20 points? The plus signs made me assume it's cumulative. Thanks for the clarification! Cdtew (talk) 17:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

hi, it's the highest score for the improvement made, not cumulative. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 19:46, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, adjusted accordingly. Cdtew (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 14 January 2013

After six years without creating a new class of content projects, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has finally expanded into a new area: travel. Wikivoyage was formally launched—though without a traditional ship's christening—on 15 January, having started as a beta trial on 10 November. Wikivoyage has been taken under the WMF's umbrella on the argument that information resources that help with travel are educational and therefore within the scope of the foundation's mission.g
On January 16, voting for the first round of the 2012 Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year contest will begin. Wikimedia editors with 75 edits or one project are eligible to vote to select their favorite image featured in 2012. ... On January 15, the foundation launched its latest grant scheme, called Individual Engagement Grants (IEG).
This week, we set off for the final frontier with WikiProject Astronomy. The project was started in August 2006 using the now-defunct WikiProject Space as inspiration. WikiProject Astronomy is home to 101 pieces of Featured material and 148 Good Articles maintained by a band of 186 members. The project maintains a portal, works on an assortment of vital astronomy articles, and provides resources for editors adding or requesting astronomy images.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
Comforting those grieving after the loss of a loved one is an impossible task. How then, can an entire community be comforted? The Internet struggled to answer that question this week after the suicide of Aaron Swartz, a celebrated free-culture activist, programmer, and Wikipedian at the age of 26.
Continuing our recap of the featured content promoted in 2012, this week the Signpost interviewed three editors, asking them about featured articles which stuck out in their minds. Two, Ian Rose and Graham Colm, are current featured article candidates (FAC) delegates, while Brian Boulton is an active featured article writer and reviewer.
The opening of the Doncram case marks the end of almost 6 months without any open cases, the longest in the history of the Committee.
The Wikidata client extension was successfully deployed to the Hungarian Wikipedia on 14 January, its team reports. The interwiki language links can now come from wikidata.org, though "manual" interwiki links remain functional, overriding those from the central repository.

Re: Trenck's Pandurs GAN

Hi! The Trenck's Pandurs GAN was failed in August 2012. I renominated The Trenck's Pandurs at the GAN in October after addressing whatever comments were raised in the initial review, so the nomination was closed after failing as it should have been, and the current nomination should stand. Thanks for taking interest though!--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, no worries. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:33, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:History of Vojvodina

I have a 3 month baby with a cold. Do you have enough cope to refer the situation on this page to an admin? See also my talk page for further elucidation of the motives of the anonymous editors. Frankly, I don't care very much what projects are listed on the talk page, but it is the principle of the thing.Brianyoumans (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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Hello again

Hello there. I hope you're having fun.
Do you think RogueSchoolar is somebody that we've met before? bobrayner (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Could be. That was my first thought... Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:28, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 January 2013

The English Wikipedia's requests for adminship (RfA) process has entered another cycle of proposed reforms. Over the last three weeks, various proposals, ranging from as large as a transition to a representative democracy to as small as a required edit count and service length, have been debated on the RfA talk page. The total number of new administrators for 2012 was just 28, barely more than half of 2011's total and less than a quarter of 2009's total. The total number of unsuccessful RfAs has fallen as well. These declining numbers, which were described in what would now be considered a successful year (2010) as an emerging "wikigeneration gulf", have been coupled with a sharp decline in the number of active administrators since February 2008 (1,021), reaching a low of 653 in November 2012.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Linguistics. Started in January 2004, the project has grown to include 7 Featured Articles, 4 Featured Lists, 2 A-class Articles, and 15 Good Articles maintained by 43 members. The project's members keep an eye on several watchlists, maintain the linguistics category, and continue to build a collection of Did You Know? entries. The project is home to six task forces and works with WikiProject Languages and WikiProject Writing Systems.
This week, the Signpost's featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured topics. We interviewed Grapple X and GamerPro64, who are delegates at the featured topic candidates.
The opening of the Doncram case marks the end of almost 6 months without any open cases, the longest in the history of the Committee.
On 22 January, WMF staff and contractors switched incoming, non-cached requests (including edits) to the Foundation's newer data centre in Ashburn, Virginia, making it responsible for handling almost all regular traffic. For the first time since 2004, virtually no traffic will be handled by the WMF's other facility in Tampa, Florida.

Reverting

Peacemaker67, I must say that you behave like bad user:

1.Your revert of my redirects to article Puppet State of Serbia are not well justified. You made your proposal for afd, but article is not deleted now and you should not change redirects to article that is not deleted.

2.I have no clue why you also reverting my redirects to article Axis occupation of Serbia. Redirects like "Nazi-occupied Serbia" or "Serbia in the World War II" should better point to article "Axis occupation of Serbia" than to "Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia".

3.If article Puppet State of Serbia is now not deleted you should not remove links to that article from other articles.

4.Most articles in other Wikipedias speak about Puppet State of Serbia instead about Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia. Why you add wrong Wiki links to that article? I must also say that I will revert back your changes because they are bad. RogueSchoolar (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

As you are aware, I have reported your behaviour at WP:ANI. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 23:29, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
[2] is a probable sock. He followed your edits to an article of very limited attention and added his "Axis occupation of Serbia" POV.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:54, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 28 January 2013

On New Year's Day, the Daily Dot reported that a "massive Wikipedia hoax" had been exposed after more than five years. The article on the Bicholim conflict had been listed as a "Good Article" for the past half-decade, yet turned out to be an ingenious hoax. Created in July 2007 by User:A-b-a-a-a-a-a-a-b-a, the meticulously detailed piece was approved as a GA in October 2007. A subsequent submission for FA was unsuccessful, but failed to discover that the article's key sources were made up. While the User:A-b-a-a-a-a-a-a-b-a account then stopped editing, the hoax remained listed as a Good Article for five years, receiving in the region of 150 to 250 page views a month in 2012. It was finally nominated for deletion on 29 December 2012 by ShelfSkewed—who had discovered the hoax while doing work on Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs—and deleted the same day.
A special issue of the American Behavioral Scientist is devoted to "open collaboration".
When we challenged the masters of WikiProject Chess to an interview, Sjakkalle answered our call. WikiProject Chess dates back to December 2003 and has grown to include 4 Featured Articles and 15 Good Articles maintained by over 100 members. The project typically operates independently of other WikiProjects, although the project would theoretically be a child of WikiProject Board and Table Games (interviewed in 2011). WikiProject Chess provides a collection of resources, seeks missing photographs of chess players, and helps determine ways that Wikipedia's coverage of chess can be expanded.
New discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
To many Wikimedians, the Khan Academy would seem like a close cousin: the academy is a non-profit educational website and a development of the massive open online course concept that has delivered over 227 million lessons in 22 different languages. Its mission is to give "a free, world-class education to anyone, anywhere." This complements Wikipedia's stated goal to "imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge", then go and create that world. It should come as no surprise, then, that the highly successful GLAM-Wiki (galleries, libraries, archives, museums) initiative has partnered with the Khan Academy's Smarthistory project to further both its and Wikipedia's goals.
This week, the Signpost featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured lists. We interviewed FLC directors Giants2008 and The Rambling Man as well as active reviewer and writer PresN.
The Doncram case has continued into its third week.
As reported in last week's "Technology Report", the WMF's data centre in Ashburn, Virginia took over responsibility for almost all of the remaining functions that had previously been handled by their old facility in Tampa, Florida on 22 January. The Signpost reported then that few problems had arisen since handover. Unfortunately that was not to remain the case, with reports of caching problems (which typically only affect anonymous users) starting to come in.

The Signpost: 04 February 2013

On February 12, 2012, news of Whitney Houston's death brought 425 hits per second to her Wikipedia article, the highest peak traffic on any article since at least January 2010. It is broadly known that Wikipedia is the sixth most popular website on the Internet, but the English Wikipedia now has over 4 million articles and 29 million total pages. Much less attention has been given to traffic patterns and trends in content viewed.
Article feedback, at least through talk pages, has been a part of Wikipedia since its inception in 2001. The use of these pages, though, has typically been limited to experienced editors who know how to use them.
This week, we took a trip to WikiProject Norway. Started in February 2005, WikiProject Norway has become the home for almost 34,000 articles about the world's best place to live, including 16 Featured Articles, 19 Featured Lists, and nearly 250 Good Articles. The project works on a to do list, maintains a categorization system, watches article alerts, and serves as a discussion forum.
This week, the Signpost's featured content section continues its recap of 2012 by looking at featured portals, a small yet active part of the project. We interviewed FPOC directors Cirt and OhanaUnited.
On 30 January 2013, Kevin Morris in the Daily Dot summarised the bitter debates in Wikipedia around capitalisation or non-capitalisation of the word "into" in the title of the upcoming Star Trek film, Star Trek Into Darkness.
Following the deployment of the Wikidata client to the Hungarian Wikipedia last month, the client was also deployed to the Italian and Hebrew Wikipedias on Wednesday. The next target for the client, which automatically provides phase 1 functionality, is the English Wikipedia, with a deployment date of 11 February already set.

Blind reverts

Why are you reverting legitimate edits only because they are made by sock? You should not do that. --WhiteWriterspeaks 09:44, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

What policy are you referring to? Every edit by a sock is a serious breach of community trust. I am sure that as a good Wikipedian you would agree that the disruption caused by what is currently something like 10 socks of the same sockmaster is an incredibly serious breach of that trust. As DeltaQuad quite rightly stated earlier, I'm perfectly within my rights to revert every edit those socks made (because the socking itself made them all illegitimate), and you are perfectly within your rights to revert me. I won't stop you, you (or another legitimate editor) just needs to take responsibility for each illegitimate edit to make it legitimate. IMHO, sockmasters edits cannot be allowed to remain on WP, because their socking is thereby legitimised. That is especially important given all the effort that must be put into hunting them down. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 10:03, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Artur Phleps

I had a first look at the article. I think it could make use of info maybe published only in German, at least for my personal taste at GA level. I would be willing to help support you over time, but as it stands now, I would probably not promote it. I hope this is okay for you? MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:34, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

G'day MB. I'm not exactly happy about that. The article contains pretty much everything one can find online in English, plus some material from works in German such as von Horstenau (and now Thomas, thanks) as well as material not available online from Lepre and Kumm. If this was ACR I would accept your assessment, but your personal taste seems a little refined for GAN, given that criteria 3 expectation is broad coverage but doesn't require the article to be comprehensive. I would be very chuffed to have your support to progress it to ACR, but I believe it already meets criteria 3. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 09:14, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
I have asked for a second opinion. I believe this is the best way to address my personal conflict here, now that I know that there is more to look for. I hope this okay for you? I will see what else I can mine out of my German sources. I still haven't looked into Krätschmer yet. He has a large section on Phleps in this book. MisterBee1966 (talk) 21:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Krätschmer, Ernst-Günther (1999). Die Ritterkreuzträger der Waffen-SS (in German). Coburg, Germany: Nation Europa Verlag GmbH. ISBN 3-920677-43-9.
Fair enough. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 21:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I guess the only remaining issue is the File:Phleps.jpg copy right question. Mariaflores1955 (talk · contribs) had uploaded a number of Hoffmann images under the US public domain rational. Diannaa (talk · contribs) questioned this and addressed the issue here. The situation eventually led to an indefinite block of Mariaflores1955. Maybe you should follow up with Diannaa to make sure the image is fair to use. Ping me when this is handled, I will then promote. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:08, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Rollback

Hi, I've just given you rollback and reviewer permissions. I'm sure I don't need to template you (though you should read WP:RBK and WP:RVW), so I'll just say be careful and, if in doubt, do things the old-fashioned way. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Harry, I'll be careful and use them sparingly. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 19:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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23rd Waffen SS GA

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Oldhouse2012

I've noticed you have dealt with the mentioned person recently...in any case I have noticed another user User:Nado158 is doing exactly the same thing with the exactly the same argumentation to delete a certain section of the Zemun article which I tried to revert back as it was simply deleted without a proper explanation by Oldhouse2012. He contests (Nado158) that no references are given (just like Oldhouse2012) despite the fact I have updated the reference which I find is supposedly the reason for the deletion. I have made my doubts about this use being another sockpuppet of Oldhouse2012 to User:Joy a few days ago. Can you please look into it? Thank you. Shokatz (talk) 12:06, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Commons

There is a matter over at Commons which may interest you [3]. Your participation would be appreciated. -- Director (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The goons are likely just PANONIAN.. Nobody cares about these sort of things but him. -- Director (talk) 06:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
The thought had crossed my mind. It is very Vojvodina-focussed. I'm just putting material together as I go, but he'll be easier to deal with here than at Commons. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 06:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Would you care to assist in posting a checkuser request for possible PANONIAN socks? -- Director (talk) 15:06, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I won't get a chance for a few days as I am travelling and only have intermittent mobile access, but I am collecting data on all the socking that has been going on. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:25, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

It is gratifying that Wikipedia takes very seriously high standards, especially concerning military biography. In order to establish Gerald Evan Williams as a deserving entry, I have added an outline of World War II accomplishments. Unfortunately, much of the documentation is currently stored at the airport, which is the location of the Presque Isle Air Museum. Williams is one of about three featured heroes from the war. The administrative office is probably closed until Tuesday.

Can you suggest how to document his medals? Some of the information came from a relative.

One of the issues, is that we shared an essay written by my husband for the Museum, which was promptly posted verbatim on Find a Grave. Now he will have to rewrite his own words, to avoid "plagiarism."

There are two photographs of Gerald Evan Williams. One was contributed to the local Museum by a niece Gerald Williams. Could that be posted without further permissions? There is also an excellent one in the West Point Annual for 1931, but after uploading it to the Commons, I had second thoughts about whether I can use an image – though from a federal source – was obtained from the Internet. For this reason I have not placed that on the article, and am still waiting to hear back from Wikipedia about the issue.

Yours for standards of excellence, Maineshepp (talk) 14:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

G'day, nothing against the good Colonel. I suggest you have a look at WP:SOLDIER for the guidelines on notability of military biographical subjects. Unfortunately I am travelling at present and will not get a chance to look at your queries. You may wish to move this to user space in the short-term, as other editors may tag it for deletion. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 21:21, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Stop

I will have to insist that you stop with insane revert game. You may revert ONLY if IP is confirmed by checkuser, but if not, you must stop with blind reverts, and ask for check. You are bit over the top now. --WhiteWriterspeaks 18:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Really? After all the times you revert a supposed "sock" with no SPI? It's unfortunate that you want rules to apply to other editors but not to you, WhiteWriter. bobrayner (talk) 19:44, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
WW, you must be kidding? When the IP appears on my talk page or someone else's, and uses the identical taunts about getting a new IP in a couple of hours or days? You go right ahead and insist all you like. If you believe I have overstepped the mark you go right ahead and report me. Seems that what is good enough for you is not good enough for anyone else. If we weren't dealing with socks so much this type of problem would just go away, wouldn't it? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 20:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Dobroslav Jevđević (1895–1962) was a Bosnian Serb politician and self-appointed Chetnik commander in the Herzegovina region of Yugoslavia during the Second World War. He was a member of the inter–war Chetnik Association and the Organisation of Yugoslav Nationalists party in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, a Yugoslav National Party member of the National Assembly, and a leader of the opposition during King Alexander's dictatorship. Following the invasion of Yugoslavia by the Axis in April 1941, he became a Chetnik leader in Herzegovina and joined the Chetnik movement of Draža Mihailović, although he often operated independently from Mihailović. Jevđević collaborated with the Italians and later the Germans in actions against the Yugoslav Partisans. During a joint Italian-Chetnik Operation Alfa, Jevđević's Chetniks, along with other Chetnik forces, were responsible for killing between 500 and 1,700 Bosnian Muslim and Catholic civilians in the Prozor region in October 1942. His force also participated in one of the largest Axis anti-Partisan operations of the war, Case White in the winter of 1943. In the spring of 1945, he fled to Italy where he resided until his death. (Full article...)

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Wow, that is brilliant! I will consult with my conominator. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:27, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo

No problem. Regards--Nado158 (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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24.135.84.89

I presume this is Oldhouse2012? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:14, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

yup! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 09:44, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Can I have your attention?

Hello!

As the CfDed categories related to ethnic groups in Vojvodina seems to will be concluded as a delete, I started to update the Demographics sections of the articles given in the List of Hungarian communities in Vojvodina, as suggested in the CfD. Since it's very likely that our old friend will do his utmost to prevent the changes, I would like to ask you to pay special attention on these. I can understand that you may tired of this, but so far you did a great job in this area and you are the one I can really rely on. Thank you! Thehoboclown (talk) 12:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

G'day. That's fine, I'm watching a lot of Vojvodina pages these days so I'll keep an eye out. Just make sure you steer a neutral path, as you can see these are troubled waters and it is easy to get into strife. I'd suggest that using a "see also" template alone at the top of the ethnic group section is a little strange and potentially inflammatory, especially where the Hungarian population might only be 5%. I suggest you leave it where it was, in the "see also" section at the end of all articles. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 13:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Hey!
Thanks for you attention and comment! Since you are a more experienced user than me, especially in dealing uneasy situations, I think it's an advice that has to be followed. If you spot other things that might trigger some unwanted action, just do what you have to. (Though, I think I don't have to say this.) Thanks again, Thehoboclown (talk) 14:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Happy to help. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Potential sockpuppet

Hello, Peacemaker67. Watch this [4][5]. Looks like a new sockpuppet. Best regards! --IvanOS 21:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

it's him all right. NO doubt about it. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Serbian State Guard

Hi Peacemaker, will you be taking this to A-class after GA? I want to review a few GANs, and I prefer the ones where I know someone will be checking my work. - Dank (push to talk) 00:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

G'day Dan. That's the plan. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 03:01, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo, No. 2

FYI — I've undeleted the talk page (what's the point of making the article visible but keeping the talk deleted?), so you can now go back and look at it if you want. Nyttend (talk) 00:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, I'll just make sure of the details and correct my comment as necessary. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 00:37, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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IDP camps and listing in the list of concerntration and internment camps

Hi Peacemaker, I have replied you on my talk page and in the article talk page, why the IDP camps do not qualify to be included in the list of Concerntration camps and Internment camps. The sources u call reliable are not really neutral on this matter, most of them are newspaper articles, and none of them prove that these camps were concerntration camps or internment camps, they just have sensational headings. For the IDP camps to be included in such a list based on such thin sources is mildly said, quite unreasonable. Please answer in the talk page as soon as u can, bcos this discussion was started almost a year ago (ref my edits and my talk page), and I got too tired and exhausted with this whole thing that I just gave up, then. But it is not right to have these IDP camps listed in that list without proper documentation, and also the first criteria to be included in the list is not there in the case of the IDP camps, all of which are now shut down and the people resettled. Regards SriSuren (talk) 22:57, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on the article talk page. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 23:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

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Operation Bora

Hello Peacmaker, would you be interested in forming a "special project to reach specific article improvement goals" for the Yugoslav Front as part of Wikiproject: Yugoslavia? The Military History Wikiproject initiated four of these types of projects (see the "how is our project organized" box at [6]) and I believe it would be very productive if we did something similar. My WWII Yugoslavia overview page was inspired by those projects and it has a lot of the core essentials which we could move and expand on. What are your thoughts? --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 21:51, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Definitely interested. What's the story with the Operation name? My current less ambitious goal is to get the Seven Enemy Offensives accepted as a good topic, 2.5/7 already at GA. But a wider special project aimed at the Yugoslav Front would be great and would have my support and active involvement. To me the key articles would also need to include Invasion of Yugoslavia, Partition of Yugoslavia, and Yugoslav Front as a set (possibly as a good topic). The major battles, combatants and key people might form the next tier, such as the articles that form the Seven Enemy Offensives (and a few others like Kozara Offensive), also Chetniks, Yugoslav Partisans, the various NDH forces articles, Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihailovic, Josip Broz Tito and the major Axis formations (including 7th and 13th SS) and their key leaders. While we are on the topic, I'd also like to narrow the focus of the Chetniks article to Chetniks during World War II. If we are going to do a special project, I would prefer to do it through MILHIST or as a collaboration between MILHIST and WP Yugoslavia though. MILHIST already has an incubator for new special projects, and I think it would draw a fair bit of support, if not from contributors, then from reviewers. Good idea, I'm keen to work out a possible structure. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:00, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I just thought "Benevolent Quake" was an interesting way of putting forth that a mass effort to improve a great many articles for the better would take place. What do you think of the name, have any suggestions? I agree with your scope and its additions. Those bios, formations, and operations should definitely be covered. The invasion and the SEOs should definitely be the primary focus for the project to begin with as then it'll be easier to build the behemoth Yugoslav Front article with summarized bits. I think making it a dual project between WP:YU and WP:MILHIST would be the best way to go. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 08:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
What about "Operation 25" (arguably a bit cryptic), "Operation Yugoslav Front" (boring I know, but easily identifiable), "Operation Vihor" (to borrow from DM) or "Operation Bora"? Any of those grab you? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 09:35, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Operation Bora sounds good. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 22:59, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
My preference too. Having been out in it, I have a great respect for it. It does tend to blow the cobwebs out... I agree about reverse engineering the YugoFront article. Why don't we start with the coup article, then the invasion? Do we need to go further back? BTW, very cool to have a main page featured article between us! Must be an omen... Peacemaker67 (send... over) 07:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
I think that the coup would be a good starting point. It appears that the Spanish wiki did a good job on the article using reliable English sources. Best to build the article with their progress and then expand on it with the other sources. The TFA is good news, we should see about getting an image included in the summary. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 12:03, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
OK, so we've started on the coup article. I think we get the coup and invasion to GA (maybe as a Good topic?) then we've got some runs on the board and can approach some other sensible people that might be interested in joining in. We could start with some of the Balkans military history task force and some WP Yugoslavia members. When we are working on an article as part of Operation Bora I think we should start a thread on the article talk page explaining what we are doing. What do you think? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 11:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I plan on moving the overview page that I've been maintaining to as a WP:YUGO subpage (WikiProject Yugoslavia/Operation Bora). I don't want to hog it to myself and it looks like it's a good place to get the ball rolling in light of the suggestions at WP:MH's coord talkpage. Sound good? --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 11:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Works for me! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Done. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 12:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Redirect

I only added that per number of articles that have that term in its content. So, red links about it will redirect to the next relevant thing. Also, obviously, some people will search for it, as you may see from view-counter. Also, you should not expect that that term will stay red link forever. That is actually quite unlikely... Then, if you question it nevertheless, RfD is always here, and also, good old talk page discussion. Be well. --WhiteWriterspeaks 22:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

sorry, if articles have that exact term in them that is why there are hits. That exact term is POV and should be a more NPOV one. Look forward to the discussion at RfD. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Hehe, anyway, how i can delete it? I am not admin. Yet. Buuahahahaha! :) :) :) Ok, nominate it, i dont have problem with that. --WhiteWriterspeaks 22:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
-)) No you aren't. But you can ask for a speedy delete of an redirect you created. But never mind, I will do it. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 23:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Do you know who is that IP? I cannot get the main account... --WhiteWriterspeaks 20:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Pecanac and Jevdjevic images

The two images of him and his dog and him in his early Chetnik days will likely be deleted. It's incredibly difficult finding the original publication source given the nature of an image and since the search often ends at a random forum or auction site with no useful accompanying information whatsoever. His portrait image could be put under a NFC tag given the poor quality of the PD WWII image. The Jevdjevic image appears to be published in 1992. Of course it was probably published much earlier than that. This could also be put under a NFC tag because it was taken at a significant time (Case White) with similar reasoning that's used for the NFC images in the Operation Storm article. --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 23:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Cohen

Hello, Peacemaker! I was scrolling around the internet in order to discover more about a person named Philip J. Cohen (the author of Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History) and I happened to find several comments which seem to imply that Cohen is a medical doctor and not a history professor. Knowing that he has been used as a source numerous times in Balkans-related articles (particularly WW2) I would like to hear what your stance is on this author and his reliability, as well as the reliability of these "medical doctor" statements. The comments can be seen here: [7], [8], [9]

Regards, 23 editor (talk) 00:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
G'day 23, this book was the subject of extensive discussion mainly between myself and Antidiskriminator during the development of the Pavle Đurišić article. If you search the archives of the Đurišić talk page for "Cohen" you will see it went around in circles quite a bit and also went to WP:RSN, which was less than conclusive. My considered view is that he can be cited normally for facts and if citing his opinions he should be attributed inline. As far as anonymous people slagging it off and promoting conspiracy theories on book sites, they are completely irrelevant. The real review you linked is one of several both positive and negative. I suggest you read the archives, look at the RSN discussion and make your own decision based on the argumentation and the opinions of uninvolved editors, as I have. I would note however that the Đurišić article was reviewed thoroughly at MILHIST ACR and FAC and no-one queried the decision to use him. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Alright. 23 editor (talk) 01:20, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Bugle interview

Hi Peacemaker. The Bugle newsletter runs a semi-regular interview series where we ask various editors to discuss a particular topic. Our next interview aims to bring together editors working on subjects related to the Former Yugoslavia. Would you mind adding your views to the questions here? Our goal is to despatch this edition by say 20 March, so if you can respond in the next week or so, that'd be great. Thanks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

G'day Ian. Will do, thanks for the opportunity to pass the oil. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 13:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Lifting of my ban

Hi Peacemaker. Just wanted to say thanks for the positive remarks posted on my talk regarding the lifting of my ban. In some strange way, I may have got a worse deal - I've agreed to various restirctions for the sake for a few hours' free editing, it was scheduled to expire within 24 hours of starting. However, there is still this squalid feeling an editor gets when he is not allowed to edit and this beats that any time.

The recent discussion on the "persecution" affair may have left a bitter taste in both of our mouths, I realise that we kicked off our association on the wrong foot. I know it is probable that we could end up on opposing sides time and time again but now that we both know that the other is generally a good faith editor, I'd like to put the past behind and start afresh. Now that we are acquainted as editors, I hope we can work positively and constructively on future projects - even if initially opposed. Take care, best regards. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 14:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I generally do my best to keep an open mind. I don't always succeed, and we are paddling through rough water in Balkans articles, but I also hope we can work constructively in the same space. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 15:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Precious

cold, hard evidence
Thank you for quality articles for Operation Bora, with a focus on history and its people like Pavle Đurišić, offering "only cold, hard accumulated evidence gleaned from archives held the world over, and distilled into scholarly texts by academics" you "would kill to have a cup of coffee with", and for living your username, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Why, thank you very much! Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 08:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Smiling

 Hello Peacemaker67, Eduemoni↑talk↓ has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Eduemoni↑talk↓ 03:43, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Good on ya. I'm feeling the love! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 04:01, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 March 2013

I am pleased to announce that the Signpost and Wikizine have reached an in-principle agreement that will see Wikizine published as a special Signpost section at the beginning of each month.
During March, three of the Wikimedia Foundation's grantmaking schemes on Meta will reach important crossroads, which will shape how both the editing communities and Wikimedia institutions handle the distribution of donors' money across the movement.
Twelve articles, five lists, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week, including an image of the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, a front-engine, 2-seat luxury grand tourer automobile developed by Mercedes-AMG.
There are three open cases, and a final decision has been given in the Doncram case.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court Cases.
The WMF has aborted a plan to deploy version 5 of the Article Feedback tool (AFTv5) rolled out to all English Wikipedia articles.

Review of Capture of Arendal

Hi Peacemaker67. Thanks for your review of Capture of Arendal. One question, though, seeing as you gave no comment regarding the review, and didn't check it for any B-Class criteria. How did you come to the conclusion that it was Start-class? It is good to know, so I'll be able to improve the article. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 00:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I gnome through Category:Unassessed military history articles and my reviews in that space can be "quick and dirty" given the 100+ article backlog. It was probably something like the almost entirely Norwegian sources and a couple of other things, but I reviewed dozens that day and I can't immediately recall. I know I'm fobbing you off, but can I suggest you list it at WP:MHAR where you will get a more considered response from someone like Hawkeye7 who has vast experience of reviewing at all levels? Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 01:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Sure, that's OK. The reliance on Norwegian sources is of course, last time I checked, not actually a reason not to rate as B-Class. Thanks for the tip, I'll head over to MHAR. Manxruler (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Belgium in World War II GA Nom

Hi Peacemaker,
I understand your point about choosing which category it fits into, but I think you'll agree that it sits on the gap between the two categories of "World History" and Military History. It's incontestably about a war, but at the same time, it's not exclusively military. In any case, it was previously reviewed (quite badly in my opinion) in the military class - the reviewer closed the nomination without allowing me to make the changes which he suggested (only minor referencing). Therefore, I'm reluctant to have to wait months (as you have to in the World History category it seems) to be re-reviewed. All the best, ---Brigade Piron (talk) 10:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to get into whether the original GA review was fair, but it certainly seems like a warfare article to me. My main point is that it can only have one GAN. There is no scope at WP:GAN for multiple nominations to cover multiple subsections. I will delete one, just tell me which one or I will choose? Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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