User talk:Lensman38
About Rosalie Williams article
[edit]Hi,
Lensman38
welcome to Wikipedia.
I just edited the page Rosalie Williams (artist) to make it safer. Please include references from relevant sources; otherwise, the page will be deleted. Please include the references.M1rrorCr0ss 08:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for editing the page Rosalie Williams (artist). I appreciate this and I like the new structure that you have created. I will do my best to include references, however this will be not be possible in some instances.
- When you say "Please include the references.M1rrorCr0ss" could you explain what you mean?
- There is a problem regarding the actress Rosalie Williams. On her Wikipedia page it states that she married Hugh Sinclair (actor) and that they had two children. This is not true. Hugh Sinclair married Rosalie Williams (artist) in 1949 and they had two children. One reason for wanting to create a new Wikipedia page for Rosalie Williams (artist) is that it will be possible to correct this mistake.
- I would be very grateful for any help and guidance regarding the page I am trying to create. All the information I have included is accurate and historically correct. Rosalie Williams (artist) designed for both Chichester Cathedral and Birmingham Cathedral as well as for various churches in Sussex. She had a career spanning eighty years as an artist so I think that it is appropriate for her to have a Wikipedia page. Please tell me if I am wrong and I will delete the page. Lensman38 (talk) 09:48, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your thoughtful message, and I’m really glad you appreciated the restructure of the Rosalie Williams (artist) page. I completely understand that in some cases references can be hard to find, and I just meant that adding references wherever possible helps support the content and ensures the page meets Wikipedia’s verifiability standards.
That said, it was absolutely not wrong what you did — I truly appreciate your hard work and the important article you've made, especially regarding the confusion with the actress Rosalie Williams. I only emphasized references so that your valuable contributions don’t risk being removed later. Wikipedia thrives on collaboration, and even if you don’t have the time to add all the references yourself, other editors (including myself) will be glad to help.
Also, yes — M1rror Cr0ss is my username. Keep up the great work, and feel free to reach out if you need any help!M1rrorCr0ss 09:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your reply. I really appreciate your help and I will do my best to find as many references as possible. 2A02:8109:ABB1:F300:39E7:97B:E14C:F3EA (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Do not be worried, I did it. M1rrorCr0ss 10:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for letting me know. I very much appreciate your help. Lensman38 (talk) 11:27, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- User:M1rrorCr0ss, you made a mess of that Rosalie Williams article. You did not fully remove the details that Lensman38 said are wrong. And you added lots of uncited content. That is not acceptable. DMacks (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fixing my ping to User:M1rrorCr0ss. DMacks (talk) 14:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for drawing my attention to this issue.
- Here is the paragraph in the Rosalie Williams (actress) page that is incorrect:
- Her first husband was Hugh Sinclair, with whom she had two children. Her second husband, actor David Scase, died in 2003. They had two children, Annabel Scase (born 1948) and George Rory Scase (1954–2019), both of whom were actors and both of whom appeared in episodes in the British television series Coronation Street. Lensman38 (talk) 14:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I removed the first sentence of that, and the word "second" from the second sentence. So it should no longer have any tangling with Sinclair. DMacks (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Many thanks. This now makes sense. 2A02:8109:ABB1:F300:B0B7:990D:E034:59D8 (talk) 14:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi M1rrorCr0ss,
- I have found the reference for the Chichester Cathedral Embroideries designed by Rosalie Williams and Yvonne Hudson in 1975. Here is the link: https://www.chichestercathedral.org.uk/visiting-us/cathedral-plan/delve-deeper-treasury I am not sure how to add a reference to a Wikipedia page and I wonder if you could add it for me. The text on the Cathedral's website is as follows:
- St Richard Embroideries (1975) designed by Yvonne Hudson and Rosalie Williams, assisted by 15 ‘thimbles’, for the Cathedral’s 900th anniversary. The complete set consists of 12 panels, four representing the move from Selsey to Chichester and the building of the Cathedral, and eight showing episodes in the life and death (1262) of St Richard. One panel is always on display in the Treasury.
- I see that the final section of the page, Death and Legacy has been edited to eliminate some of the text. Lensman38 (talk) 14:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is a reference that is not connected to Rosalie Williams:
- Allen, Traudi (2004-12-01). Gascoigne [née King], Rosalie Norah. Oxford Art Online. Oxford University Press.
- Could you delete it? Lensman38 (talk) 14:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I removed the first sentence of that, and the word "second" from the second sentence. So it should no longer have any tangling with Sinclair. DMacks (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Do not be worried, I did it. M1rrorCr0ss 10:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Rosalie Williams (artist) moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Rosalie Williams (artist), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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