User talk:Ckoerner

Thank you

Thank you for endorsing my TPS. I really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwameghana (talk • contribs) 00:18, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

My pleasure. If you don't mind I'd love to see your photos when you return from your trip. Please send me a link if you get a chance. Ckoerner (talk) 17:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure I will --Kwameghana (talk) 00:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Movement Wide Finance Report 2014

Dear Ckoerner,

I’m Alex, currently a finance fellow (i.e intern) at the Wikimedia Foundation. I worked before for Wikimedia France, planning the Hackathon Lyon 2015 mainly. I'm today contacting you because of your activity for Wikimedia MediaWiki Steakeholder User Group.

Last year, Finance Fellows produced a financial report that included financial activity from every chapters. It was great and has been presented at the Wikimania in Mexico.

If you haven’t seen the results of the Report 2013, here they are: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-wide_Financial_Trends_Report_2013

We’re currently starting the Report 2014 and this year we also want to include user groups to improve the scope of our work. I want to tell you that I’ve tried to make the process as short and easy as possible, so that shouldn’t require a lot of your time.

The aim of such a report is global. It helps having an idea of how the money is used across the movement, it helps chapters and user groups to learn about best practice and finally it leads to more transparency through a qualitative work, which I believe is important.

Could you briefly tell me if you had any income and expenses in 2014? If you are not the person responsible for this, please tell me who is the user the most likely to know this information.

I’ll be your contact for this project this year, I’m looking forward to working with you!

Cheers, ACella (WMF) (talk) 22:51, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Alex! I think you want to talk to Marcus Glaser User:Mglaser or Mark Hershberger User:MarkAHershberger for information about expenses. Ckoerner (talk) 17:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, Chris!

Re: Income/Expenses. This year we were self-funding. A big part of this was possible because we relied on travel grants from the WMF and used free tools (Amazon's free tier of AWS, and servers I already lease personally). Now that you mention "income" though, it makes me think about how we might generate some and increase our activities. -- ☠MarkAHershberger☢(talk)☣ 18:21, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hetty Reckless

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Christina Warren for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Christina Warren is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Warren until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. HappyValleyEditor (talk) 06:36, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Christina Warren references

Hello! I am surprised to see you work for the Wikimedia foundation. Could you please have a look at WP:RS and refresh yourself on what consitutes a strong source? The recent addition of references published on christinawarren.com, Twiiter and the like to Christina Warren are not good references. Yes, Twitter can sometimes be used for uncontroversial referecne support. But in this case you were using CHristina Warren's own Twitter account as the reference! Honestly, if you work for Wikimedia, onw would expect that you would know what a reliable source is before you started editing an article. Prior expereince is not a requirement for the general public... but come on, you work for Wikimedia? My suggestion is that you should know better. HappyValleyEditor (talk) 17:23, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello HappyValleyEditor. Thanks for the note. I did look through the guidelines on reliable sources. I also looked at WP:BLPSPS where it states, "Never use self-published sources – including but not limited to books, zines, websites, blogs, and tweets – as sources of material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject" - emphasis mine. I understood that statement to say that my citations were in line with community expectations. Apologies if my interpretation of the policy was incorrect.

I'm just as surprised that I work at the Wikimedia Foundation. So far I've enjoyed the short time I've been here. It's a great opportunity to work with many diverse people with different approaches to the movement. As you can see from my edit history, I am new to this corner of the community. I have created a very small number of new articles and have made my edits with good faith and civility. I would appreciate it if you would approach my volunteer edits with the same hospitality that you would for any new editor, regardless of my employ. Ckoerner (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry but the fact that you work for "the company" means you should be more familiar with the editing policies. Yes the Twitter references are technically ok, but they are the most minimally desirable, being just a shade past entirely invented. The notability of the article you created is suspect as well. Newbies get a warm welcome on Wikipedia (most of the time) and one expects them to make mistakes and learn in the process. This volunteer does not mind helping them. However when you work for Wikipedia, I think it is safe to say that you are subject to a higher standard, and you should familiarize yourself better with the policies. Would you expect an employee Apple to know how to properly use a Mac computer, or an employee of Adobe to know something about how to use Photoshop? I think the answer is yes. In any case, welcome aboard!HappyValleyEditor (talk) 22:06, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

With respect to the maps...

Hi, Thanks for the information, I think it could serve, although the original idea was coloring the municipalities I think it's probably better and easier to put them markers also seems very easy to edit, is now available for all wikis ?. PS: Sorry for so late answer... and the bad English... use automatic translator. Miguu "Mexican Synarchism and Nationalist Front of Mexico=Nazism" 23:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank You

Hi Chris, thank you for helping me improve the accuracy of the Maritz LLC Wikipedia Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritz,_LLC). I'm also a new user to Wikipedia and want to ensure I follow all Wikipedia rules, so if you have any feedback or tips for me to make revision requests as easy as possible for those without a COI (conflict of interest), please let me know. I have submitted more edits to the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maritz,_LLC) to further improve the accuracy and was wondering if you wouldn't mind reviewing and incorporating the proposed changes to improve the page. It includes adding new information to the history section and a few additions to the facts section to ensure the page is completely updated. Please let me know if you have any questions about the proposed revisions.

MadisonfromStanding (talk) 19:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Most edited article report

Hi Chris, it was nice meeting you today. The report I mentioned is at User:DataflowBot/output/Top 20 enwiki articles by edits and editors in past 7 days (id-1) (with Pokemon Go at #8). Plantdrew (talk) 02:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah, great! It was nice meeting you as well. Thank you for humoring all of my questions. :) Ckoerner (talk) 15:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Ingress (video game)

That was a good suggestion, and I've implemented it. --Thnidu (talk) 16:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Abby Miller

Hello. My name is Abby Miller and I don't understand why the wrong information regarding my birthday keeps popping up on your site. It's incorrect and could cause concern with my job. I would very much like the incorrect birthday removed. (Dec. 30, 1978) how do I do this? What do you need from me? Thank you so much! Miller abby (talk) 03:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Abby. Sorry for any stress this has caused you. I can't speak for all editors, but when information is removed from an article without reason that can be perceived as a bad thing. As an encyclopedia we're trying to share more of the world's knowledge, not less! :) I saw that the birth date was removed without reason and simply put it back.

I see that there are no citations for the birth date and so it has been removed. Wikipedia has many policies regarding the biographies of living people. Which in this case handling an unsourced birthday is pretty clear (That's a long and nerdy link, so beware!). If something like this happens again, where there is inaccurate information that needs to be addressed, the best thing to do is leave a note on the talk page for the article and ask for help. You can also post a new section on the noticeboard for biographies of living people to get the attention of editors who are interested in shepherding this corner of Wikipedia.

I hope that helps explain things. I wish you the best of luck in your career! Ckoerner (talk) 16:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

RfC: Protect user pages by default

A request for comment is available on protecting user pages by default from edits by anonymous and new users. I am notifying you because you commented on this proposal when it was either in idea or draft form. Funcrunch (talk) 17:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Too late, I already commented! :) But thank you for the notification Funcrunch. Good luck on the RfC. Ckoerner (talk) 23:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Chris. After a discussion at T149445, it looks like a filter is a better approach to implementing these changes. We're developing some language for a message that editors will see when the filter is triggered. Comments and suggestions on this message are welcome at the talk page. Take care, I JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 15:59, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Page blanking Facebook

Hello, I'm Semmendinger. I noticed that you recently removed some content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Semmendinger (talk) 15:05, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

I have blocked this account as it appears to have been compromised. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 15:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

This blocked user is asking that his block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Ckoerner (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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UTRS appeal #16891 was submitted on Nov 12, 2016 19:38:31. This review is now closed.

--UTRSBot (talk) 19:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks all for your help. I've regained control of my account and changed all passwords. Ckoerner (talk) 22:51, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

BES Utilities

The passage I am deleting is a totally factually incorrect The news papers pieces used to verify are a press release by bes themselves The did not have a court victory It was settled out of court They are outright lies Chasen121 (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Chasen121, That's a great distinction. Perhaps it's still worth mentioning? In the context of the settlement (not a court victory) and that it's according to the company's own press release, but not to remove it entirely? Ckoerner (talk) 19:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Stakeholders Group

The March 2018 meeting minutes are listed as March 2017. I’m not able to edit the page, but here’s a link to it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Stakeholders%27_Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.116.128.20 (talk) 13:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the tip, I've fixed the label. Ckoerner (talk) 22:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup St. Louis 15

Wikipedia Meetup St. Louis 15

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are invited to attend the 15th St. Louis Wikipedia and WikiProject Meetup. We are doing a quick touch-base to gather current interest and make a plan for more regular meetups in the future. The meetup is next Thursday, August 16 from 5-6 PM with more structure and from 6-7 PM social time. This all takes part during Venture Cafe's Thursday Gatherings at Cortex in the The District in St. Louis. There are free drinks. Please do visit 15th St. Louis Wikipedia and WikiProject Meetup and add your name if you plan to attend. THANKS :) I hope to see you there! Jon Phillips (talk) - via Jon Phillips (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2018 (UTC) Join our WikiProject St. Louis Page and add your name as a participant

Andy Cohen and racism

Hello Ckoerner (or should I say 172.13.199.59?). You have reverted an edit on Andy Cohen by saying that the source is not reliable per WP:RSSELF. The source is his verified twitter account. Can't get more reliable than that. --1.136.111.144 (talk) 23:27, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey 144, I can never tell how familiar IP editors are with the policies around here, so apologies up front if I'm telling you something you already know. Wikipedia is based on reliable secondary sources of information to back up claims. Tweets are considered self-published. The first bullet in the policy states, "The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim." Emphasis mine. An exceptional claim is clarified as, "surprising or apparently important claims not covered by multiple mainstream sources;". Anyone on Twitter can claim to be anything. You could go on Twitter and claim you're Gabe Newell and that Half-Life 3 is coming out for Christmas. That doesn't make it something worth adding to an encyclopedia. Now, if a reliable source were to publish a report that this was true, then we could talk about how this could be included in the article. We also have a belief in assuming good faith, which at this point I'm afraid I can’t do. As such, here's what I'm going to do. I've reverted the addition (Edit: someone else beat me to it). I added a note on the talk page of the article for folks who want to work constructively. I also asked for the page to be protected for a bit. Cheers. Ckoerner (talk) 03:30, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

The twitter account sourced is verified. It is straight from Andy Cohens mouth. And when someone says he is a racist that is notable. Here is the first hand primary source. --1.136.111.144 (talk) 05:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Nope. I’m afraid you didn’t read a thing I wrote. I’m ending my part in this conversation. Ckoerner (talk) 12:17, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Greetings

	Nice to meet you ~
	Thanks for your edits on Bill Paxton ~mitch~ (talk) 18:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Another Thank you

Hi Ckoerner, I'm a current MLIS student hoping to work with medieval manuscripts and early print culture. For one of my information science classes, we're exploring how Wikipedia information is edited. Back in October 2023, I was looking at Wikipedia's page on John/Eleanor Rykener. I was disappointed with the pronoun usage, since it felt so behind current research by medievalists. When returning to the page in March 2024 for my class, I was pleasantly surprised to see "he/him" pronouns removed and replaced with "Rykener." Since Eleanor's life predates modern conceptions of trans identities, it's hard to know what pronouns Eleanor would have preferred. While I think "she" and "they" are both appropriate, I recognize the academic safety in using "Rykener," or simply Eleanor. I want to voice my sincere appreciation for you editing a page on such a niche subject! I'm rather new to the Wikipedia-editing world, but I recognize how important this work is, especially for those marginalized throughout past and present.

With gratitude, Amstyles2022

See referenced Wikipedia page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John/Eleanor_Rykener — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amstyles2022 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the refresh

In case you're still looking at it, several sections of Tim Bray are also quite a bit out of date; I dropped some citations into the talk page back in January. There is much better-known software than in the current section, also I published a book, also one of the companies I founded no longer exists, also a couple more RFCs. Tim Bray (talk) 01:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

I had a few minutes and gave it a little attention. :) Ckoerner (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks so much! One little typo: "co-edited a book Titled Standing on high ground":

• "Titled" isn't part of the title
• The title uses title case: "Standing On High Ground"

Tim Bray (talk) 16:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Gah! Sorry for the typo. Fixed. Ckoerner (talk) 13:50, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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