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For making and sharing this momentous event (and for a huge list of other things) you have been awarded the seldom-coveted THUMBS UP AWARD. Wear it with pride . . . . .. or please recycle.
I am truly honored. I have had a few "digits' pointed in my direction over the years but this is one of the best. TKS!```Buster Seven Talk
Just stopping by...
I just wanted to stop by and say that I think you've been doing an excellent job with WER. Just because it doesn't happen to dovetail with one member's expectations or ideas doesn't mean that it's not working. Intothatdarkness15:23, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you darkness. One of the many hats I wear in RL is artist. Over the years I've had a few art shows and viewings. Many artists will spend hours "wrangling" with some critic that doesn't like their interpretations or compositions or color palette. I'm no different. We ignore the majority of viewers that smile in appreciation but harangue endlessly with the critic. WE all just want to be loved I guess. . Buster Seven Talk16:56, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah. I seem to recall that Dennis had some wrangling to do in the early days as well. It does tend to get frustrating when one critic assumes that their interpretation is correct or superior when they didn't actually create the work themselves. I've not done art, but have experienced this with writing. Intothatdarkness17:03, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Our idea was a success! Thomas.W (don't ping him) has returned. Ah.. It is a relief when old friends return. This is another success of our WER project. Should we share this success with our other members? JimCarter03:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Absolutely!Tell the members the good news. We just were criticized and questioned about whether WER actually does anything. But lets share it without saying who the returning editor is...we don't want to treat T.W. badly or anything. He may not like being used as a success story....but he is. Thanks for getting me involved in this success story, Jim. . Buster Seven Talk04:26, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Wait....@Jim Carter:...What makes you think he has returned? I don't see (user contributions page) any editing that he is doing? Are you sure he is back? Lets be sure before we Brag about it. . Buster Seven Talk04:33, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
He has made thisthis and this edits just few hours ago. While he hasn't removed the retired tag yet but I assume he has returned. As the above mentioned edits where made after we send him that mail and he suddenly made three edits after being inactive for almost a month, I'm almost sure he is back. What you think? JimCarter04:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the award, Buster7. I pasted transfered the award to my Awards page. Holy smokers, after nearly 10yrs of being on Wikipedia, I finally figured out how to 'cut & paste' :) GoodDay (talk) 15:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Eddy Award
It's possible that the screening of nominees might need tigtning. But, I'll leave that to you & others. GoodDay (talk) 21:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Since the beginning I have screened just about every nominee...especially those that had not received a second after the 2 week period. They got extra scrutiny. I did NOT look for reasons to vacate the nomination. I looked FOR reasons to support it. I looked for positive actions above and beyond what was mentioned in the nomination. These editors were not being placed in nomination for adminship or for the Oscars. Its a simple weekly award of thanks. I can assure you, the editor bluntly asking for honest feedback has never placed anyone up for the award and has never seconded a nomination and has never even commented at the nomination pages...ever. . Buster Seven Talk21:25, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Seeing as only 'one' editor (Ottawhitech) has complained, I doubt there's much to be concerned about. So, no probs here. GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
His claim is completely baseless. 100%. But, it does give me the opportunity to ask if you would be interested in doing some of the vetting of nominees at the Eddy Awards. Like I said, we are not looking for problems and, if we do find something problematic (which has happened) we usually just wait for a few weeks until the Drama or whatever it was has passed and then ask the nominator to re-submit. I think its happened twice. . Buster Seven Talk21:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
The potential for me to get into trouble is too risky. I'm still on siteban probation 'til May 21 & having any editors angry with me, can easily lead to my wiki-demise. GoodDay (talk) 21:46, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I noticed that Ottawahitech mentioned & pinged EC, in his post. I'm hoping it's not another attempt by someone to 'bait' EC. Anyways, I'm glad EC has avoided the discussion. GoodDay (talk) 16:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
IMO the whole thing is just residual drama. Buster's done a great job of running this program (as has those who have helped along the way and continue to help). I avoid ER due to some of the drama and grandstanding that goes on from time to time, but it's certainly a needed activity and the Eddy is a great part of that. Intothatdarkness18:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Ty, Into. You are also invited to assist at anytime. One of my simple desires is that WER members would go to the week's awardees talk page and offer their personal 2¢ in acknowledgment. If 20 strangers, 20 well-known strangers, came to the page I think retaining that editor and strengthening the resolve of that editor to keep doing whatever it is they are doing is increased. Editor retention happens one editor at a time. . Buster Seven Talk14:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
May I politely suggest that screening of nominees is improved? Otherwise it just looks like a popularity contest. There is yet another nomination for which I could provide adequate background for their not being wholly within the collaborative spirit of Wikipedia. Being aware however how the Eddy Award works , and having felt I can no longer support WER, I will not register my objection there simply to make a point again. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
May I politely suggest that screening of nominees is improved?. I take it you mean, May I politely suggest that screening of nominees BE improved. I can only assume that one of the 3 nominees currently in the 2 week seconding period is the editor that you can't name. And since you gave one of them your seal of approval...of the remaining 2, I can not guess which has acted so contrary to the collaborative spirit of Wikipedia that you feel you need to inform me of how you feel about their nomination. Is it Liz? Or is it Technical 13? Are you so stingy that you fail to understand that the EotW is just a glorified barnstar. It doesn't come with a basket of fruit or free airfare to the Bahama's or 10% discount on your dry cleaning. It's not a "Get out of a Ban" card. It's just a barnstar from, at minimum, two people dispensed by a third person. Maybe you would reconsider your criticism if you knew of the two cases I can recall where the nomination was held in abeyance for a month or so until a minor disturbance was clarified and rectified. I have vetted almost all the nominees. As I said elsewhere I don't go looking for problems that they might have. They are not up for administratorship. I regret that you feel the way you do. But I have absolutely nothing to do with your feelings. . Buster Seven Talk04:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
It might be easier to consider the Eddy as just a barnstar with glitter applied by a few editors. In a way, the Eddy Award is like Administrators ---> Nothing special. . Buster Seven Talk15:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Kudpung, I am looking through the archives and current nominations, and am not seeing that he was ever nominated? Am I missing something? I see he added the userbox to his userpage in June 2013 ... GoPhightins!03:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Sorry Kudpung. You'll have to bark up some other tree. We are just clerks...not police. The same thing happened just the other day with a 100K Award. Scurrilous activity seems to abound. What can we do? The next time you investigate you should look for the diff of when GoP or I dispense the award. Almost always on a Sunday. I wonder if the Oscar Award ever has this problem? Did Sharafat write up a nomination statement? I'll have to take a look I guess. Kind of like a phony Rolex watch, isn't it. Lots of glitter but its not real. It doesn't have the WER Seal Of Approval. Its a phony. We will be dispensing a real award tomorrow. Why don't you visit the user's talk page and congratulate them. . Buster Seven Talk05:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
To GoP and Isaacl....I guess something should be done...maybe ask Sharafat to remove the fake award from his mantle. Someone else will have to do it. Maybe Kudpung will volunteer? . Buster Seven Talk05:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
To clarify, policy doesn't strictly prohibit someone from doing what he did. Good taste would dictate that he respond to a request, but I don't think you can actually force him. Tags saying you have more bits than you really do, those can usually be forcibly removed because it causes confusion to new users and is a type of impersonation. Other stuff, not so much. Guilt/shame is your best tool. Dennis Brown - 2¢23:32, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm committed to not acting, myself that is, in this matter. What I will do is watch him and, someday, maybe he can earn a real Eddy. . Buster Seven Talk23:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Before someone we all know and love responds, based on what we can see, there is very little chance that a real Eddy will be awarded at any time in the near future to this editor. . Buster Seven Talk23:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
If he hasn't edited in 90 days, I would probably just boldly but politely remove it. Until then, watching sounds like a good idea. Dennis Brown - 2¢01:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure what policy applies, but the self-awarding of a recognition that is intended to be given out by others is surely a edit that can be reverted. isaacl (talk) 01:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
I have always been gently embarrassed...
...that I once did something that you so profoundly fondly recall - as much for the fact I do not remember it, as for the references to it. Glad to see you are still engaged with good doing. LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Draft IUAAPA
Thank you for assist me! I´m a little bit frustrated because of the my Draft - I see some many new articles with no or one reference, and I can not understand that over 4.500 possible references are not enough for notability, even 25 in the article. What I understand is, that without IUAPPA we would not have clean air in the western world - we would have the some air pollution as in china....maybe I must ask the environment specialist here to check this.--Mingo (talk) 15:43, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
It is my pleasure, Mingo. Don't worry or get frustrated. Patient is a good thing to have when you edit at Wikipedia. This happens to many new editors. They try to run before they can walk. But you are doing good; I'd say you were up to a slow trot. |:~)(<----That is a smiling happy face). I am sure that you and I along with User:L235 Editor L235 will figure this out and an article for IUAPPA will exist. We just have to find a good secondary reference. . Buster Seven Talk20:35, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Mingo You mentioned Environmental editors. Here is what I did to find them: 1) I figured there was a Wikipedia Project for editors interested in environmental things. 2) I typed "WP:Environment" and Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment was listed 3) Now you can use the link, go to the project, and see if there is someone that can assist you. Good Luck! . Buster Seven Talk20:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
@Go Phightins!: Okay, thank you. So, once accepted, the nomination and the second are moved to the other page? I've done this before, but I think last time I nominated directly on the second page. Sorry for not doing it properly that time. Sarah (SV)(talk)17:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Stop posting comments about arbitration cases and minions and stuff. You may think that they are funny, but to some of the people involved in some of the cases, nothing is funny because Wikipedia is a battle for some (possibly false) version of the truth. Therefore humor is dangerous. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
No, what is dangerous is humorless idiots in positions of authority, not pointing to anyone specific. Feel free to make your own conclusions. How do you and your hat fit in the same room? John from Idegon (talk) 21:35, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict ) @ RmcC: I'm not sure why you have taken the extreme measure as to silence a good faith editor such as ME. Nor why think you can make such pernicious demands to a veteran editor such as myself. I am currently indifferent. My comments were completely truthful about the situation, not at all humorous. My comments about Cuba and the bison WERE meant to be humorous. There is much, seriously, that you don't know. But I get your advice and the need for restrictions of my free-roaming nature. The simple fact is that the editor where I mentioned the case has been a best wiki-friend and fellow editorial collaborator for seven years. But...no problem, I will remain silent in spite of a long and torturous history and much information and insight to share. I think you have over-stepped your responsibilities; my comments were as distant and remote from the two cases as can be and were as innocent as rainwater. But...don't worry...I am properly chastised and will endeavor to be good.. Buster Seven Talk21:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Your ping won't work
A ping added afterwards won't work, Buster.[1] You need to link and sign in the same edit, see [2]. You may want want to re-post with a new link and a new sig. Bishonen | talk12:47, 27 March 2015 (UTC).
Thanks, Bish. I'm glad someone is looking over my shoulder. I've made that mistake (not re-signing) before. But "Boss" got the message and added the essay. TY. . Buster Seven Talk16:01, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
yikes
a " festering 7 year conundrum " does not sound good. I an picturing lawyers but it could be many things. My eyesight continues to improve, tomorrow I take the last of my cataract drops then Wednesday back to the Dr. for another checkup. I can read in bed for the first time in ages (without the magnifying glass) so that's a big deal around here. My Brother & I have been paying 3 evenings a week, which is fun but takes up a lot of time and energy. I am off to here a talon petroglyphs at White Tank park shortly and hope to return with some pictures. Life. What a place to live. Carptrash (talk) 17:20, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
A gift for you...
...which I shall upload upon my return home from my travels. I was in Williamston, North Carolina this morning, and managed to snag a photo of the mural in the post office there. (Also the post office building, which is part of the local historic district.) It's by someone called Philip von Saltza, who as yet lacks an article (not surprising, given its quality, I weep to say)...if you want to try and work something up I'll be happy to contribute the illustration in a couple of weeks. If I come across more murals in my travels (which to be honest seems rather unlikely) I shall point them your way. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.03:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for acknowledging by accomplishment of 100000 edits. Didn't even know I had that many. Have a cheeseburger on me. :) QuasyBoy(talk)22:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
You are very, very kind. I must admit that a recent bad experience had put me off from editing. But your kind words have made me think again. Thank you. Contaldo80 (talk) 09:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
koekjes and serenity
Thank you for providing me with what I need before I even realize that I need it, thoughts about peace, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (8 August 2010, 28 January 2011)!
Dear Gerda. It takes awesome to recognize awesome. I would nominate you in a second for an Eddy Award but you would only decline as you have in the past. Your calming voice and loving presence are renowned throughout WP. I am honored. . Buster Seven Talk11:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, both, blushing again, - sweet words in the ears of a woman officially told to better conduct herself, and told that her user page shows hostility and accusations. Looking for translation help here, is Gerechtigkeit (the right thing) rather justice or righteousness? Poem in more modern Wikipedian:
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@TonyTheTiger:. Please be patient. I guarantee that what I have added are facts. My source is from within the Lily Pool documentation. I'm sure I will be able to find Quality reliable secondary sources but it might take a few days 'cause I am busy with RL responsibilities. I hope you can grant a veteran editor from Chicago a little bit of a time leeway. As for the Location thread, none of those come from me. I will, however also search them out when time permits. . Buster Seven Talk02:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
But... one small thing. Other than your quick whistle on what you call "OR" don't you think I improved the article. I don't need you approval but, from one editor to another, it would be nice to hear what you thought was good rather than just hear what you thought was bad. . Buster Seven Talk02:56, 5 May 2015 (UTC).
Editor of the Week summary
I just noticed this edit that you added to the summary of Editor of the Week. In my view, it's not really a good summation of the criteria: as we discussed when we established the criteria, we were looking for a way to recognize someone's continued good work over some period of time. We did discuss how it could recognize a single key achievement, such as bringing an article to Good Article status. But I don't see it as a thank you for a discrete event that was appreciated; as we have mentioned numerous times, it recognizes good behaviours and ways of contributing that improve the project. (And editorially speaking, the sentence lacks a neutral point of view, and is a bit too informal for my taste.) I realize management of the recognition is primarily in your hands (and a few others), so if you feel that the direction of Editor of the Week has changed in this way, that's fine; just be aware that we picked the scope of Editor of the Week very deliberately, and my personal feeling is that shifting to a "thanks for X" mode diminishes its impact and makes it less distinguishable from other barnstars. isaacl (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Isaacl, feel free to remove it. It showed up while vetting Intothatdarkness as a comment he made some time back. I thought it fit, but maybe you don't. By all means, remove it. . Buster Seven Talk21:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Buster7, I really appreciate your good-natured congeniality when I provide feedback; it makes working together a pleasure. I'll try writing something up about recognizing good behaviours instead. isaacl (talk) 21:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above.
1. Collect is banned from any page relating to or making any edit about US politics or US political figures, in any namespace. This ban may be appealed no earlier than 18 months after its adoption.
2. Collect is indefinitely limited to one revert per article in any 24 hour period. This restriction excepts the reversal of unambiguous vandalism.
Hey Buster, We are down to three accepted nominations, and none currently being discussed. Time for a note on some relevant noticeboards? GoPhightins!02:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I nominated someone today. My nomination needs some "technical assistance" due to my weak internet access. I left a note in the nom that GP should look at. The news of my death was quite premature. ... John from Idegon (talk) 06:54, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
There's been no discussion of the editor retention project per se in the case evidence, just links to the edits of the editor in question. So no defense is needed, and I don't anticipate any issues coming up in future, as it's the person's behaviour that is in question, not the views or opinions held. isaacl (talk) 00:48, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Under the procedures of Editor of the Week, your nomination having been submitted, seconded and supported, you definitely should have been awarded this, and it was only because you graciously declined the award that it did not go to you. In recognition of that, on behalf of all who supported the nomination, I would like to present you with the (first ever!) Almost Editor of the Week barnstar for all of your hard work on Wikipedia.
This is a bit of an odd nomination. I know it is against custom and probably a bit presumptuous, but I can't name anyone who deserves an eddy more, so I am nominating our good friend Buster7(talk·contribs·count·logs) to be Editor of the Week for all of his work in WikiProject Editor Retention, for his commendable efforts in improving articles, for his work in the Co-op program, for his wikilove, for his work at the Help Desk, for his 41k+ edits and 13k+ mainspace edits, and generally in appreciation of his almost seven years of active service on Wikipedia. I've had the pleasure of working with him in this Wikiproject and via email, and briefly part of the Co-op program, and it has been an absolute honor. Buster, knowing you, you'll probably decline this- and feel free to if you so choose- but let's see if we can get this nomination seconded before he gets around to declining it. Buster7, a huge thank you for your service on Wikipedia.
The following editors seconded or supported this nomination:
Thank you, "L", for your kind words. And let it be known, far across WikiLand, that I appreciate you and all the other WER clerks and all the nominators over the years that have made the Eddy a success. I didn't do it alone. . Buster Seven Talk12:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't think
that I ever thanked you for your delightful and spirit raising poem. So I am doing so now. I keep waiting for life to get simpler and it just continues to get more complex. Not in a bad way, just not in a way that leads to wikiediting. Though the biography I am slowly reading on Clarence Darrow may yet yield fruit. I want you to be sure that both your honeyed words and your intention were appreciated. Life is good, Carptrash (talk) 15:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
IUAPPA
Hello Buster, because there was no reaction I published the article today....thank you again.--Mingo (talk) 11:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hot off the presses... [3] Lindsey Graham promises to have ‘a rotating first lady’ if elected president.
Before this news item can even be considered for a WP Article, the three most obvious questions require answers:
1) How many "Rotating First Ladies" will be required during a four-year term of office?
2) How long will the "Rotating First Ladies" rotate?
3) Where will the potential rotating take place? The White House? The Oval Office? Air Force One?
Thanks for the gesture of friendship. I agree with you - Wikipedia is an impressive achievement. I actually used to edit here quite a bit many years ago, but I got a little bit too hooked on it and had to stop! Something came over me to so some extensive work on the Sanders article and I've enjoyed it, so I figured "what the hell" and created this account. HappyWanderer15 (talk) 23:47, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Conflict of Interest Statement
I think it’s very dangerous and wrong to allow a group of very strong, well-financed editors/individuals/companies who have no accountability to anyone other than their employers/stockholders/CEO's to have control over who gets access to the information in a Wikipedia article. Our readers don't know who writes the articles, who has input into the articles, who is gerrymandering the information to the benefit of their employer...not to the benefit of the article. . Buster Seven Talk16:12, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Co-op Pilot Results & Mentoring
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Hi Buster7. Just wanted to give you a heads-up that HostBot matched my test learner profile with you at the Co-op. No action needed at this time ;) I_JethroBT is starting up the Co-op again this week, but we're only inviting ~10 newcomers per day for now. So you may be matched with some 'real' learners soon, but probably not too many. Let him know if you'd like to opt-out. Let me know if you have any questions about the bot or the FormWizard gadget (used for profile-creation). Best, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 19:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Today's articles for improvement weekly vote
Hello Buster7:
This week's voting for TAFI's upcoming weekly collaborations has begun at Week 31 of 2015. Thanks for participating!
Buster, thanks for all of your work getting EotW out in my absence ... I will be back soon and can reclaim the mantle in a few weeks if you would like, or if you would like to continue, I am more than OK stepping into the behind-the-scenes aspects of EotW. Your call, but either way, thanks for what you do! GoPhightins!13:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks B. Its a rewarding and fulfilling task. I know you must be very busy with admin and The Signpost duties so, if you don't mind, I can continue. I'll be travelling in September but I should be OK even then. One favor I ask is that you take time to congratulate the awardee at some point during their week. You've probably seen me pushing that to other WER members but, as yet, I have not been able to create weekly participation. The few times that more than just a couple have shown up have been awesome and, I'm sure, stimulating to the recipient. Any ideas to increase congratulatory visits would be welcome. Your friend, B7. . Buster Seven Talk15:24, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey, sorry for the delayed reply: if you would like to keep awarding, that is awesome, and yes, I will do my best to do a congratulatory visit ... that is my fault that I have fallen behind with those. As for stimulating participation, I am not sure how best to approach that ... will ponder. God bless, GoPhightins!13:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
my total inability to concentrate on the eye drops that I have to take . . ....... for the rest of my life. I get ideas for editing but then when I sit down and try to work on them they just sort of fade away. Someone recently told me that I have to finish my book on Parducci and I am inclined to give it a try, only every time I start . . .. But it was a nice feeling to get your note and I hope you don't view me as unappreciative or uninterested. Your picture perfectly caught the flavor of many PO murals, with the doors underneath. Maybe what I need to do is map out a road trip from PO to PO. Once that is done things just happen. Carptrash (talk) 16:38, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Isaac. I think I understand...although I'm not real sure what "transcluded" means. All I carry in my toolbox is a 4-way screwdriver and a set of channel-lock pliers. All other repairs depend on tech guys like you. Always glad your around! . Buster Seven Talk20:34, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Pages can include the contents of other pages by reference, so when the other pages are updated, the including page changes. The Hall of Fame page currently includes 123 archive pages for the recipient infoboxes, so as you update an archive page, it shows up on the Hall of Fame page (once all 123 pages are used up, someone will have to go to the Hall of Fame page and add a whole bunch of new inclusions). However as an optimization, the Wikipedia server doesn't regenerate the page sent to your web browser every time you visit it; it saves a copy of the generated output and subsequent requests are sent this cached copy. I believe once a certain amount of time has elapsed, the server will regenerate the page again (editing the page of course also triggers a new page generation, and there may be other triggers). You can force the page to be regenerated by adding the "?action=purge" string to the end of the URL (the cached version of the page is purged and so a new version is generated). isaacl (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
That explains why sometimes, in the past, when I would create a new archive page, it didn't always show up right away, which caused me to be concerned that I had erred somehow. Today, I did things a little different in that I created the Archive page first ("under construction") and then I populated it with the copy of the "Eddybox" that was already loaded in "paste". And, then that mysterious noticfication was there in stead of Nableezy's Eddybox and I wasn't patient enough to wait. But...all's well that ends well. TY . Buster Seven Talk
Thank you for making me editor of the week!
I really like being editor of the week! It's going on my CV...
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Glad to assist. I knew it was most likely a glitch in the system. The same thing happened to me a year ago or so. I had no explanation for a drastic undo at the talk page of a "grinch". TC. . Buster Seven Talk16:14, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear Buster, you’re a brick. (If at first glance that appears less than complimentary, please find your spectacles and note the spelling.) Thank you also for fixing the seized mechanism in the clockwork parrot — it always amuses me to watch him pull his little tin feathers out and poop his little tin poops — and for stuffing the kapok back through the cat’s ear. As no doubt you noticed, I’m terrible at maintaining the place, and I can no longer afford to pay one of Mr. Trump's undocumented Mexican rapists to do it. (Lysistrata has expensive tastes. Payments on the Pagani Huayra alone come to $26,000 a month, and it’s proving difficult to persuade L that replacing it with such as a 1999 Honda Accord would be a stylish move, not least because then we could afford to actually drive to the thrift store. When I told her I think the Huayra interior is over the top, she said the inside of an Accord is beneath contempt. Do you know a chap who could screw some bits of titanium onto the dashboard? That might do the trick.) Writegeist (talk) 19:33, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
100,000 edits
Thanks for the congratulations, Buster! Participating in the Wikipedia community has been a an immense honor. Abyssal (talk) 15:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
No other ways!
Hi Buster! Its been long since we talked last, how are you? I want to make an announcement but I can't figure out any other way but to drop a note on few intimate editor's talk page, including you! I appreciate if you can have few minutes to spend on reading this thread on my talk page. If you feel that I deserve a scholarship, I appreciate your endorsement on that thread. Please don't consider this an unusual spamming, I don't have any other way of announcing this. Thank you very much! Have a nice day! JimCarter12:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
The cupboard is bare and I haven't the time to shake the trees for a candidate before I leave for vacation on Tuesday. If you have a likely candidate please nominate and I will award them next Sunday. The edit you reference above was just one of the many things in prep for the trip in case I forgot. ―Buster7☎15:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
(watching:) I don't want to cause you trouble, just thought that the award should go to the unnoticed contributor which I don't think I fit ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Crəbə
Buster7 has given you some Nice Koekjes which promote fellowship, goodwill and WikiLove. Hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the good flavor of Nice Koekjes around Wiki World by giving someone else one. Maybe to a friend or, better yet, to someone you have had disagreements with in the past. Nice Koekjes are very tasty and have been known to be so NICE, they will even bake themselves. Enjoy!
"Merci Buster, ik hoop dat je een warme, droge en zonnige weer hebt want dat is het hier niet. ;) Mis je het hier niet? Antwerpen for life en gelukige feestdagen voor u." Cheers. CPA-5 19:32, 16 December 2019
"Thanks Buster, I hope you have a warm, dry and sunny weather because it is not here.;) Don't you miss it here? Antwerp for life and happy holidays for you.
An animation of a double-rod pendulum at an intermediate energy showing chaotic behavior. Starting the pendulum from a minutely different initial condition would result in a vastly different trajectory. The double-rod pendulum is one of the simplest dynamical systems displaying chaotic solutions
written technical books on statistics, data mining, finance, classification methods, measuring wellbeing, as well as science popularization books
EOTW
You don't mind all the EOTW nominations I've made in the past month or so, do you? I'm assuming that you're okay with it because you say "thank you" each time a nomination is moved to accepted, but I just wanted to make sure. Clovermoss(talk)04:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Absolutely OK. I love it when the Queue is two/three months ahead. Yours are always well researched and written. Welcome Aboard!!! ―Buster7☎07:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I haven't written any in awhile because the queues been pretty full lately. Anyways, I have a few people in mind for when the queue does get low. If you're running low on nominations, feel free to ping me or leave a message on my talk page anytime. Clovermoss(talk)01:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Buster could you help me write up a request for EoftheW for User:Ozzie10aaaa. We worked together as co-editors for the West Africa Ebola article and I know that he works with and contributes to our medical articles with, I think, one GA article. I know that there is a way to bring up an editors main works page, but I don't know how to do it. Buster, I just have to say that if WP (and the world) had more goodhearted editors such as this one we would all be a lot happier. He has just been such a joy to work with. Gandydancer (talk) 16:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Will do this week sometime and then send it back to you to add your 2cents and then for you to nominate.. Although your last nomination was one of the BEST. Hope all is well, Proud of America and the World for the 2 weeks of peaceful protests. Looting was minimal, even in the beginning, when compared to the outpouring of support and goodwill. Good to see the generals speaking up about "domonate the Battlespace with US soldiers"!!! ―Buster7☎17:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
The cats out of the bag
Well it looks like the cat is out of the bag on this one!--I never dreamed that Ozzie had your page on his watch list.. Now as for your fine compliment, I wish I could see myself that way. Perhaps I am better than I think but I truly have to work very hard with my edits/wording and am ever so grateful that we have a fine copy editor that is interested in many of the same articles that I work on and follows me around. So anyway, I'm not anything special as an editor and neither is Ozzie. But there is more to this place than being able to write the best copy and that is knowing how to work with others and create a joyful atmosphere to work in. That is a real talent and one that Ozzie excels in. Gandydancer (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Looks to me like you just wrote the highlights of his nomination. All we need to do is a little research, see what others (aside from ourself) say about him, find a few appropriate adjectives and "Bob's yer Uncle. I just love Bob's your uncle. I use it whenever possible. Of course here in the States I get the strangest of looks and comments. But that's all right.
Above you ask about an editors work page and how to bring it up. Go to a User page. Any non-IP User page. Click on "User Contributions" in the menu on the left. Go to the bottom of the page and click "Edit count". Again, Bob's your uncle ―Buster7☎21:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
OK, I checked it out and am not sure about this copy: This quote from his page says it all: There is more to this place than being able to write the best copy and that is knowing how to work with others and create a joyful atmosphere to work in.Gandydancer (talk) This is not from my talk page nor is it from his. Also, about the "he doesn't do drama" bit, actually while that is true he is the first one to offer an opinion or support when it is asked for. I have seen this again and again that he brings issues to the Med discussion page and offers his stand at AfCs. So, all in all, I think it best to just skip that. (Re the cat, more later but no it's not mine though it looks about as mad as my beloved and now deceased Ruffie must have been after all that I put her through.) Gandydancer (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
OK..I'll make the changes you suggest. No prob. But...you should know that when I find an editor with 75% of their efforts devoted to creating and molding articles and under 10% of their edits on talk pages I know that they do not engage in arguing etc. They are to busy working. But its just a personal little comment I like to make when I can for effect. I'll check on where i saw the quote. Is it on his User page???―Buster7☎22:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I couldn't disagree more. For example there is a discussion going on right now at the Abortion article, an article that I've worked on for many years. I've spent hours and hours reading and discussing at that article about the wording for the lead--we are talking about just a few words here, not some big change. The last big blowup was several years ago but it goes on all the time. It is easy enough to sit back and say "I agree with xxx" and then you could say oh look low talk page edit count! But how difficult it is to wade in and present one's thoughts and the reasons behind those thoughts. And then reading pages and pages of the thoughts of others, and then responding to them. And on and on. It is hell. But if editors do not constantly work on that article (and many, many such articles) the so-called pro lifers would rob women of their right to choose in a heartbeat. And people do quote Wikipedia to back up their arguments. I know that before the last big lead change (though it was only a few words, if that) Catholics and other religious groups had been using our article to back their position. I for one call those editors that use our talk pages to argue article content the backbone of and hope for the accuracy of our project. I do not mean to criticize Ozzie for not taking part in the discussions--he is better at other ways to help this project. We are all different with different talents. Gandydancer (talk) 23:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry Gandy but you misinterpret my Use of the word Drama. Lets stick w/ Ozzie as my example of what I mean when I say "No Drama here". When you go to page and scroll down you'll see a big circle segmented into "namespace totals" for the editors work which is displayed in percentages. When I am vetting an editor for the award, one of the more important things I look for is where is the editor spending their time. Are they working or are they talking? 80,368 of Ozzies 104,458 total edits are to articles or 76.9%. Article talk, user talk and other user talk amount to about 15%. I think high talk percentages are a clue to lots of chatter, lots of over-discussing. So... its just a clue or a hint (to me) that someone like Ozzie does not spend a lot of energy arguing. Or, to use my words, doesnt spend their time creating "drama". I could be wrong about using the percentages as a barometer...that's always a possibility. But I think the NameSpace Totals give me a window into the work habits of an editor that, most of the time, I know very little about other than what the nominator and perhaps seconds tell me.
Please don't get me wrong Gandy. I'm not saying you're wrong about blow-ups and draw-out discussions that happen all the time especially at "Hot" articles and topics. Remember: I cut my teeth at Sarah Palin in 2008 and worked with you at the various BP oil spill articles. You mention the Abortion article above and how OZ doesn't contribute to the battle to add (or remove) stuff. Maybe that is not his forte'. Like you say we are all different with different talents. Be Safe. Wear a Mask. See ya on the other side of this virus thing. ―Buster7☎05:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Buster, thanks for the explanation and I do understand, however I think we still may tend to disagree. For example in the many controversial articles on Trump, editor SPECIFICO writes thousands of talk page words using WP policy links to demonstrate things that I am in total agreement with but am not such a policy expert. She only very seldomly adds article page edits. But I am eternally grateful that at AfCs and such I can just say "per xxx and xxx". Like you, I don't like to argue and will only do it when I have no choice. At any rate, I do tend to bristle when an editor talks about TP edits as though they are not a good thing (though I understand that I did not exactly understand your position). Anyway, moving forward here's the deal on Ozzie: He knows how to cooperate. Ozzie and I worked together on the Ebola article and he did all the looking for new information and he posted it to the article. He didn't go to the talk page and ask for "permission", and why should he? We had both become experts of a sort on Ebola. But on the other hand I felt completely free to reword some of his edits and regularly pare off old information to make room for the new--and I didn't ask TP or Ozzie's permission either... So that is what I mean--his ego is strong enough that he does not feel a need to defend his every edit and is able to work with others for the benefit of the project. Like you Buster, he is not Mr.macho and that's a good thing. Gandydancer (talk) 18:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Gandy. Thanks for the reply and the added info about Ozzie. I'll work it into his Nom. Always a pleasure to chat!―Buster7☎00:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello Buster7, what a delightful way to 'meet' another editor. Thank you for being the bearer of good tidings ...and for all you do for the project! JennyOz (talk) 02:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Questionable edit at Trump presidency timelines
I'm in two minds about this edit. It changes this edit by me which asserted that Biden won the election. This is what RS are saying, and only fringe media sites like the Daily Wire or Breitbart are saying otherwise. Sure, if you want to delve into semantics, Biden has not truly won yet as the EC hasn't met. Are we playing to the Trump supporters by saying that Biden is only projected to win by MSM or should we dispense with the fine print and just say he won? Mgasparin (talk) 03:26, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Currently, when our reader comes for knowledge about the daily "Who won?" situation, the timeline hints at the ambiguity of the declaration. Soon president-elect Biden will be officially declared as the 46th President. I suggest we wait a bit and let the ambiguity linger. I debate with myself about mentioning the Administrations stance on "the transition" and "the daily intelligence briefings" and the blatant disregard for normalcy. But that can come after the Biden Administration is 100% official...which should be soon. Fingers and toes crossed. ―Buster7☎12:29, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Pinging @Mgasparin Monitoring the various presidential timeline articles since 2008 has required reverting the occasional (what I felt were...) unconstructive edits that were made to them. Preventing WP:Bloat was always my concern. I never intend to deterred other editors from editing the timelines constructively as long as the descriptive texts remained brief and concise. At times the descriptive texts are used to allow political bias to "creep" into a timeline. I readily admit my own bias but do my utmost to contain it. I guess I just needed to say this somewhere and a user's own talk page is always the best place for that type of admission.―Buster7☎16:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I get that. Political articles are difficult because we all have our own ideas and feelings about Person X, either positive or negative. Deterring newer editors has never been my goal either, but it does sometimes happen on articles that concern persons who are controversial. You either love or hate Trump; there seems to really be no other option. This really makes it difficult for a lot of people to write about him in an objective manner and keeping their personal feelings about him off Wikipedia. Mgasparin (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Beautiful (and did you see I found Gandy?!)
Buster,
Feeing quite elated tonight. I hope I’m correct, but I do believe I’ve found out Gandy alive and well. I pinged you to her new account - looks like she got locked out of her Gandy account or something. My heart is soaring. It was a dull ache that didn’t dissipate with time since losing her so many months ago.
Secondly, how beautiful this is, and what a beautiful person you are for posting it to your homepage. I am so glad to know you. ~ Sarah petrarchan47คุก03:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
"Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend... Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it... If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Moving, be like water. Still, be like a mirror. Respond like an echo." --Bruce Lee
Really GREAT news. But I don't think I got the ping. Can you try again? The above quote was a holiday gift years ago by User:Zaereth who shared editing time with Gandy and many others at the Sarah Palin article back in 2008. I am honored to be your WikiFriend. ―Buster7☎14:02, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Sorry you didn’t get the ping, it’s from the talk page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/208.117.88.196 - at the bottom of Gandy’s talk page is a section titled “The Waltz”. I looked the contribs of the IP (linked above) and it’s Gandy, judging by articles and timing. If she wanted to make a clean break for whatever reason, I respect that, I’m just elated that she isn’t missing any longer!
I am ever grateful to be your wiki friend too. You’re my anchor to all that was good about editing here. And I’m sure this is true for countless other editors, Buster. Big hugs to you and your wife ~ Happy Thanksgiving!🍽🦃🍖🙏 ~ petrarchan47คุก17:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
The fact that you (and others) took your time to purge this dark cloud from my history is a kindness. The opening of the investigation by the complaining editor was a retaliatory act meant to dissuade me from editing. Thankfully it did not work. ―Buster7☎14:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
It was my pleasure! :) I enjoy being able to clear up people's records and allow them to have a clean record.
If it makes matters more funny, or interesting, or flat out confusing, we have a CCI under the name of "Buster40004" and somehow, despite 4 and 7 being far apart, I misclicked onto it plenty when searching for the CCI title. That's not even the worst, when there's stuff like "20151115" due to our date formatting. Sennecaster (Chat) 04:53, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
I followed the link above to courtesy blanked and read that it is a judgement made "under rare circumstances...". Thank you again for the courtesy and the due consideration on my behalf. ―Buster7☎06:43, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. On another St. Patrick's Day, with green thoughts. Thank you for the amazing sweetness (koekjes ...) you offer to others! I like to see the EotW running nicely! - Today, I decorated my talk with memories of St. Patrick's in 2019, and our whole playlist of back then seems so good right now, music about the Breastplate (listen, YT in the article), Psalm 91, Psalm 130 ... - There's a RfC needing a snow close, - would you be independent enough? Or you, Drmies, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Editor of the Week
Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)
I remember when we started Editor of the Week, We had bright shining eyes and an enthusiasm to make a positive impact on WikipediaWorld. Almost a full decade has passed, and I recently dropped by the Editor Retention Project only to notice Buster7(talk·contribs·count·logs) still holding this little niche project of ours together through sheer will and dedication. Hundreds of users and editors have felt personally recognised and better due to Buster's efforts, and surely dozens have continued to edit (or increased their editing) solely because Buster was one of the people to notice they deserved a little recognition. As far as I can tell, he himself has never been nominated for this, simply because of how much of a one-man-army he has been through the last 8 years of Eddy, just keeping up nominations, posting, and keeping regular tabs on every aspect of this Wikiproject, all by himself. More than that, he's a tireless contributor to all of Wikipedia, not just WikiProject Editor Retention or Editor of the Week, with edits spanning back 14 consistent years now. No wonder it seems like he is forever present, making good solid contributions wherever he goes. I can think of no person more deserving of praise for this. This nomination was seconded by User:Eddie891, User:Gog the Mild, User:Theleekycauldron, User:Panini, User:Sennecaster, User:L235, User:Worm That Turned, User:John Cline, User:Nosebagbear, User:Tuckerlieberman and User:Isaacl
You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:
A full decade of dedicated Editor of the Week awarding. A one-man-army, just keeping up nominations, posting, and keeping regular tabs on every aspect of this Wikiproject. A tireless contributor to all of Wikipedia with edits spanning back 14 years. Forever present, making good solid contributions wherever he goes.
You are quite welcome and deserving. I assume you were "pinged" which was unintentional. If so, please let me know. It should have been a surprise when you receive the award sometime early next year. Nice to meet you. Good wishes and continued solid editing. ―Buster7☎03:39, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
I would also like to express my heart-felt thanks for your nomination, Buster7. Yes, unfortunately, I also was pinged, which was a lovely surprise, even if unintentional :) Kiwipete (talk) 05:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Sorry for intruding upon this section instead of creating a new one. I wanted to thank you again for the honour, although I'm curious why my display was removed since I was excited to check that out!--NØ18:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I recently learned about this great initiative. Now that I know of it, I can think of about 5 to 10 editors who I think deserve it. My reading of the situation is that there is not a lot of nominations. Would you consider it a helpful or an unhelpful thing for me to nominate so many? Any advice on that is welcome. CT55555(talk) 14:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks so much for offering your involvement. Your recent nomination was splendid. The process is simple. The nominations "sit" at the Nomination page for a short period waiting for possible "seconds and thirds". After a week or two I move them to the Accepted Nominations page where they join the queue awaiting the awarding process. At the moment I am just ready to award the first in line this afternoon which will leave 6 nominations; 4 of which I nominated, and your nomination is currently the last in line. 6 in line is a good margin. It relieves the stress of ME having to find a good candidate. I much prefer that working editors nominate the fellow editors that they see in action, doing whatever it is they do to improve the encyclopedia and the arena we work in. I, myself, have a "back-up" list of editors I consider when the line gets too short. If the Queue gets too long, the day of awarding gets too far removed from the initial nomination. I rarely insert an editor into the head of the line except if the nomination is of a timely nature. It doesn't happen often, but then I'm the only one here. Welcome aboard! Check out the Hall of Fame and the Recipient response pages. We started this process of awarding Eddies back in January of 2013. I consider it my legacy. I am open to any assistance you might provide.―Buster7☎16:45, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. So what I'm taking from that is that I should nominate a small handful, wait a few weeks, see what the backlog is at, and then add if the backlog remains single digit? CT55555(talk) 16:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Right. Lets say "4" is the lowest we want in the queue Also, you might consider visiting the Editor of the Week's talk page the day or two after to offer congratulations. I think it adds mutual participation by the editors that know the recipient. ―Buster7☎17:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I was just following your advice about pages to review and I noticed that nomination 484 won before in 2022. I was not aware of that when I nominated. Is that a problem? CT55555(talk) 06:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
It would not be the first time an editor would receive a second EDDY but this time period is rather short...only a few months. I think it would be best if we remove the nom from accepted for the time being. Good catch. ―Buster7☎17:14, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
On a minor terminology note: typically I wouldn't refer to someone who received the Editor of the Week recognition as someone who "won". The idea is that it's a low-key pat on the back (though still a tangible connection between someone who recognizes the recipient's good work and the recipient, which is always gratifying). isaacl (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
User:CT55555. Meet Editor isaacl. He is the other "clerk" here at Editor Retention. On the other matter--I received your email and will work on the draft for awarding this week-end. ―Buster7☎17:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Regarding this edit: perhaps instead of "Thoughts & Prayers", the reason could be something like "For dedicated service in support of Wikipedia"? Just a suggestion. isaacl (talk) 21:28, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Shakespeare's phrase "hoist with his own petard"—meaning that one could be lifted (blown) upward by one's own bomb, or in other words, be foiled by one's own plan—has become an idiom that means "to be harmed by one's own plan (to harm someone else)" or "to fall into one's own trap".
Best wishes
Thanks for your message. The first place I believe our paths crossed was on the talk page for the article for Tim Raines (which, interestingly, is still the most recent non-bot posted thread on that talk page). This talk page is the first (and sadly not the last) place where I experienced the frustration of being unable to attract others to comment on a disagreement, and thus having the dispute frozen in time, awaiting some future person to do something. As a result, I was a bit wary during our discussion, but happily we were able to communicate effectively and amicably. If everyone were as collaborative as you, I might be a more regular contributor today. I appreciate your dedication at chipping in to support Wikipedia's mission in whatever way you can. Best wishes during this time of reflection and celebration with family and friends, and good luck for the new year! isaacl (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
I consider this a great Honor. My older brother, now diseased, was a grade school bus driver for many years. He was hard of hearing so he barely heard the screaming little rugrats. Thank you so much.Buster7 (talk) 23:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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Editor of the week (remembrance)
Buster, I just want to thank you again for the EotW nomination in 2023. I will forever cherish that moment and the words written. When I say "Be a Rainbow" it comes from Maya Angelou's writing's on how we can be impactful in our neighbor's life. You and the others who supported my nomination are definitely a bright Rainbow in my sky for that thing that seems so simple to many yet has so much depth to a perceptible person. As I go on winter break soon (end of Jan) I want to wish you a great 2024 and peaceful springtime. I hope to return then and listen to your Song again. --ARoseWolf17:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I noticed that one user in the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week#Recipients of Editor of the Week aka The Eddy has (formerly x name) next to their name. I noticed there's a lot of users listed by their former name on there, would you be okay with me updating the names on the list where appropriate to their current names, while noting their past one? I'd leave out instances where a user has vanished of course. I'm suggesting this because it'll become easier to search if an editor has already received the award. Additionally, I like the idea that it properly recognizes the user by a name that some may be more familiar with. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
(pondering emoji) I'm a bit uncertain, because I'm not sure what the recipient would prefer, which will probably depend on why they changed their user name. I'm not sure it's important enough to bother asking them, though, so my initial thought is to leave it as is. isaacl (talk) 22:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Zachary Rapp-Rovan
Finally giving my feedback. My main observation is that all the sources are about Zeds Dead and not Rapp-Rovan solo. Could you try searching for sources that discuss Rapp-Rovan extensively independent of Zeds Dead? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)14:57, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes. I will do that. I have noticed that in most of the interviews about the duo, Rapp-Rovan does most of the talking ...but I get the idea and will pursue that. Thanks Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 22:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
His Bio never made it to Mainspace. Sadly, there is no mention of his fantastic work as a visual artist above and beyond his musical achievements. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 09:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Nominations
Hey Buster. Hope it's not a problem, but this week I worked on a list of users I want to nominate for EotW. I've nominated 5 of them so far, but I have a further 18 on my list. Hope this isn't a problem, but I thought I'd mention it due to a backlog / queue that it may create. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Right...thanks a lot for the foresight and for your participation at Editor Retention. What we need to consider is other editors that may want to nominate someone. We need to leave them room. If we load up the queue too much it will be Christmas before their nom gets his/her "pat on the back". There are 14 in line: we are good till at least May. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 22:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Fair enough. I do have two I'd like to tack on though if that's okay, one already written. I can hang tight though if you feel at all strongly about it. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Fair is fair. The Accepted Noms are like a pot of stew. Lots of chefs want to add their ingredients to the pot. If you and I fill up the pot, there's no room for other chefs. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 22:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Draft Your Article
Good Advice given to me many years ago---Draft your article gradually rather than rushing to get it into Wikipedia. This approach will result in more interesting and coherent content. It also allows you the time to review your work carefully for potential copyright violations. Hope that helps. 18:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Open membership in this project to users who are at least 60 years of age and have made at least 50 edits in the past year.[b]
Open supporting membership in this project to users who are less than 60 years old but have made at least 50 edits in the past year and support the goals of this project.[c]
Suggested goals for this project:
To support collaboration and communication among members for the advancement and improvement of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement.
To encourage older people, retired people, and soon-to-be-retired people to participate in Wikipedia both for the advancement of the encyclopedia and for their own personal enjoyment.
To encourage older people to share their experience and expertise for the improvement of Wikipedia.
To encourage older users to use their experience and expertise to help younger and less experienced users.
To encourage participation in local and regional Wikimedia events.
To sponsor Wikipedia meetings and classes at places where older people gather.
To advocate for the elimination of ageism and sexism in Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement.
^This current minimum age limit of this project is 70 years. A minimum age limit of 60 years should permit the participation of most retired users. The minimum activity level of 50 edits per year is arbitrary. A minimum activity level indicates continued interest. Members who do not meet the minimum activity level shall be moved to inactive status. Members who have died shall be moved to memorial status.
^A new class of Supporting Members allows those users under 60 years to support the goals of the project. Users approaching the age of 60 years may wish to become supporting members in anticipation of reaching the minimum age limit for members.
If you don't wish to receive any further information about Senior Wikipedians, please remove your username from our notice list. Thanks.
There is a debate among "The bearded ones" about what to call ourselves. Most prefer "Senior" as in Senior Care Facility or Senior discount. I prefer "Elder" as in "I have been here a while and I know what the Fukumi'doing. Now get off my lawn your little rugrats!", "Elder" demands respect. "Elder" says to all that are paying attention, "The mud at the bottom of my cloak has been achieved by slopping thru the droppings and bile of many a conflict but here I stand ready to defend my WP". "Elder" says, ""I may take a break under that Mighty Oak over there and I may fall asleep, and dream of days gone by, but I'm not dead". "Senior says, "I better call the cemetery and let them know I'm coming!" Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 10:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Hold
Did he ever return?
No. He never returned
And his fate is still unlearn'd
He may ride forever
'neath the streets of Hades
He's the man who never returned.
I am happy that you are there. Perhaps sandboxes should be handled like drafts: after six months of no action a warning, and when still no action, deleted? - I understand that you don't feel well, but next week (or today) please give out EoW. I'm no angel and give out Precious. Even if the block had been for behaviour - which I understand it was not - accepting mistakes is possible. Just listen to today's cantata ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Gerda. I feel like we are cousins...both in the Family of Rewarding editors for the good things they do. I made a Blunder, a typo, and it swelled into situation that threatened my joy at being a WP editor. All is well. I will do some housekeeping and get rid of all the sand that has accumulated in the basement. Lesson learned? Use the Preview! Thanks again! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
All's well that ends well. I looked at your sandbox and found quite a lot. But they all seem innocuous. One suggestion for now is that you remove the category I see at the bottom of this page indicating that you are a compromised account! Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 13:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I remember you asking if we should merge the awards ;) - Every morning I run the list of recipients that day, and am grateful for all the good things they did. Read my story, listen to the music, enjoy! And tomorrow there will be another one, - I don't know yet which. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry to see what happened to you, Buster. In fairness to those supporting a block at the time, there was little to no clarification. Had I seen any discussion I would have responded immediately and even emailed you. Such hateful views do not fit your aura. While you can be passionate you are not a hateful person. Your account didn't fit that of one that was compromised either even though I can see the point of admins in this situation. I'm glad the situation was cleared. I am working on that special project you discussed in email with me. I didn't want you to think I ignored it. I have been sidetracked for a few weeks. Much health to you. Be the rainbow that you are. --ARoseWolf11:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Thank you @ARoseWolf:. You are a light that shines brightly wherever you go. Thanks for shining in my direction. TA! Buster Seven Talk (UTC)
You deserve the thanks. Your efforts to shine a light on our respective little corners of Wikipedia has made an impact on so many. It is appreciated and I hope it continues for a long time yet. I mean to embolden you to continue your campaign of recognizing editors from all corners of the community and bringing their contributions to the fore for all of us to see and know. Thank you! --ARoseWolf16:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Toby the Cat
Toby lives outside. He is not homeless as he has many homes he visits throughout the neighborhood. But my building is his base. He once was an inside cat but his owners, tenants of mine, let him out one day, he tasted freedom, and now scorns entering any doorway. He just arrived (at 6AM) to check his dish which another tenant fills daily. Empty! I told him to go catch a city rat and eat it this time instead of dropping it off, decapitated, in my yard. He looked at me and walked away, insulted that I asked him to actually eat his prey. I didn't want to tell Toby that his former mate, Amy, was passing away upstairs. See, the former jerk tenant, that I had to evict for non-payment of rent, had four cats. Toby, his mate Amy, and two of their kittens that were adults. The jerk tenant completely abandoned the three inside cats leaving it to me to call the Anti-Cruelty Society to pick them up for adoption since they were good cats. They came but we only found two. Two weeks later, Amy jumped out of a hide-a-bed we were dismantling for discard and went to hide. For weeks she hid (not to well since we knew where she was) on the enclosed back porch, We LET HER BE, as instructed by the Beatles but she didn't eat food or drink we put out for her. On day she was gone! I left windows open and figured she jumped out one and went to join Toby in the Great Outdoors. Sadly that was not the case. A few days ago, my first floor tenant tells me he has been hearing mice in his bathroom ceiling. Knowing there is an access panel to the 6' foot tub and that I had opened it weeks ago to start a repair that was now on hold, I knew it was Amy. As I write this, Amy is in the throws of death. I can't get to her, poor thing. I dropped some wet food down to her and water but she is comatose...still breathing but barely. If I could I would end her pain but I can't reach her to help. Toby doesn't Know. I haven't told him. Maybe Tommorrow. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 11:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks Word. I have emailed you an update. She was a wonderful shy creature that lived in pig sty with a Father and son who claimed to love her and her children. I won't report the details. Toby was lucky and ran away from home. His wife and kids suffered many indignities. Using planters as a litter box is a hint as to the poor care they were provided. Enough said. I will be sure to give Amy a proper burial in the back yard. Toby is a constant daily visitor. He is a great lucky cat. He got away from a prison! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 06:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Amy didn't survive her ordeal. She passed away overnight. Animal Cruelty passed my call on to City Services Who will probably call the second Tuesday of next week. There was not much we could do to help her or ease her suffering. If you can visualize this, she was halfway... under pipes and the floor all under the tub. We scooted food and water, but she never touched it...not for days. She was never socialized to humans and because of that she hid and stayed away. Her chosen hiding place led to her death, so sad, poor little thing. We plan on wrapping her in linen and burying her in the garden. I'm sure Toby will visit. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 21:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that, but at least she isn't suffering anymore or being treated poorly. Please give Toby an extra pet for me next time he comes around. The WordsmithTalk to me17:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
For some strange reason, with all that's going on, I find myself reflecting on my request of eleven years ago. But first I want to thank @Go Phightins!: and @AutomaticStrikeout: for their unwavering faith in my abilities to swing the mop and their fantastic support and timely advice at that time. They were right...I would have been a tremendous administrator. In RL, I filled administrative roles in many, many venues. With the Chicago police, with Rotary, with the local library, with the 2010 US Census, as General Manager of busy auto repair shop without any car repair experience (auto damage appraiser at the same time). Also remembered is that I was the altarboy for the Monsignor at the High Mass on Sunday. I was the lieutenant of the crossing guards in Grade School. I had the capacity to start at the "average/bottom" and wind up at the top...or at least close to the top. If you take the time to read the request for administratorship ; you will see that it was one little-minded gnat of an editor, one provocateur with malicious intent, that had it in for me. He threw stones whose ripples reverberated throughout the process and caused others to question my Wikipedia career. My downfall was his prime goal. But, luckily, in the long term, he failed. I'm still here and from the recent support and comments I have received here and elsewhere, I have left a positive effect on hundreds of editors. Because of signs of inactivity at his page and talk, I presume the gadfly has passed away. I might take the time to thank those that supported me and spoke in my behalf. Those were the highlights of the time. The misinterpretations and nastiness, the close-mindedness, the out-right attacks, of the Opposed will probably go ignored. But, I'm glad I didn't make it. My failed attempt led me to Editor of the Week which has been my home, my refuge, for 15 years. One more thing. I am in the best of health for a young gentleman of 78. Some aches and pains, high blood pressure, psoriasis, low grade leukemia. All is good. I'm just reflecting on my successes. The roller coaster of a life well lived. WP has been a big part of my simple pleasures Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 13:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
The Shit Happens T-Shirt Theory
When you wear a T-Shirt that says,
SHIT HAPPENS, then that's what happens; shit.
If your T-shirt says,
MIRACLES HAPPEN, then Miracles will happen.
It all depends on your viewpoint.
Some editors wear a T-shirt that says,
DRAMA HAPPENS. So that's what they see; Drama.
But pointing out a problem is not Drama.
And Protecting the Encyclopedia is not Drama.
And Protecting New Users from their own Innocence is not Drama.
I like this new look for a possible signature but how do I replace what is my current sig (which has served me well in that its easy to find in long talk threads) with this new possible sig??? Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 10:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
I like the 7 to be lower than the B, as in vitamin B7. But I look at a thread above ""The Shit Happens T-Shirt Theory"" and the B and the 7 are on the same line, not one slightly below the other like the caption to open this thread. What to do???? Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 10:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're asking for the location of the preference where you specify your signature? It is located at Preferences → User profile → Signature.
I see the "B7" in the heading in a sans-serif font which doesn't use old-style numerals, so the tops and bottoms align. Your current signature already specifies a font family to use; you can use the same or similar markup (for example, you might use a <span>...</span> instead of an <em>...</em> element) to set that to whatever font has the desired appearance (though if you want people to see it the way you intend, you should choose a font that is commonly installed by default across different operating systems (Windows, MacOS, iOS/iPadOS, Android, Linux, ...).
A visibility tip: your current signature sets the "color" style property; it's a good idea to also set the "background-color" style property as well, to ensure the two work well together. This is particularly important now with the official dark mode. isaacl (talk) 21:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Gerda. I have been to ONE Opera performance, at the Chicago Lyric Opera House. We saw Turandot. Sad to say, all I remember, is a nice long nap. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 20:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
"Is this to be an empathy test? Capillary dilation of the so-called 'blush response', fluctuation of the pupil, involuntary dilation of the iris." (Tyrell)
"We call it Voight-Kampff for short." (Deckard)
"Demonstrate it. I want to see it work." (Tyrell)
"Where's the subject?" (Deckard)
"I want to see it work on a person. I want to see it work on a negative before I provide you with the positive." (Tyrell)
This late in the "watching what Trump does" game, anyone that is not convinced of his true character or his presidential legacy is blind and should not be trusted with small children. Or even large children for that matter! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Lets not forget how he single-handedly turned the simple use of face masks, during a deadly global pandemic, into a partisan wedge issue, costing many people their lives! An accurate count of those that passed due to Trump's misguided announcements is impossible to ascertain with a fixed number...but it's alot! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Lets not forget that he and his businesses have been plaintiffs or defendants in more than 4,000 legal actions, including six business bankruptcies. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Lets not forget that many of his comments and actions over the years have been characterized and verified as racially charged, racist, misogynistic and LIES. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 12:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
EOTW suggestions
The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:
Hello! This is User:Luiysia (IRL name is Kelly). My main interests are fashion, music, literature, and history. I am fairly new to Wikipedia editing and I found that there has been very little activity from the Chicago Wikipedia user group since 2020.
I'd like to host a casual meetup in Chicago to celebrate Wikidata Day on Saturday, October 26.
Proposed location is Engine Coffee in the Wicker Park/West Town area, at 11AM.
My proposal to make extensive changes to WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older was a bust, primarily because many users felt that the term "Senior Wikipedian" implied a higher ranking Wikipedia membership. Therefore, I am making two less ambitious proposals:
My story today is about a composer and choir conductor, listen to his Lamento. - My story on 13 October was about a Bach cantata. As this place works, it's on the Main page now because of the date (but Bach wrote it for the 20th Sunday, not the Tuesday after the 21st Sunday after Trinity). I sort of like it because today is the birth date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing! - Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello! This is User:Luiysia again. At the last meetup, people expressed interest in having a Wikipedia meetup bi-monthly (that is, every other month). So, here's our December meetup!
The meetup will start at The Bourgeois Pig, in the Lincoln Park neighborhood, at 11 AM.
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Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ Dr. Blofeld09:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
We made it to the end of another year! Best wishes for the season and the coming year - I'll take all the good fortune we can get! isaacl (talk) 22:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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